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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                     Dec 15, 1989

In this issue:
  SYS$OUTPUT ECHO POLICY
  GLOBE.EXE
  RE: HARD DISK CONTROLLERS
  RE: JOBSDUMP
  RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUFFR A
  NOT ENOUGH !!
  RE: RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUF
  RE: KILL FILES AND DOGS
  RE: CHIPS - AGAIN
  RE: RAINBOW FTP SITES
  LA50 PRINT PROBLEMS
  WRONG ASSUMPTIONS
  FUNS WITH NETS


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Date:     12-14-89 (05:59)
To:       ALL
Subject:  SYS$OUTPUT ECHO POLICY
From:     KEVIN BARKES

SYS$OUTPUT (129/38) will drop the Rainbow echo on 12/17/89.

The recent content of the echo violates my system's rules of participation.
I don't permit my users to pollute netland with such drek, and I deeply
resent the need to scan through the message base to manually delete offensive
entries.

My legal counsel has advised me that several messages contained in the
Rainbow echo during the past month are potentially actionable, and the last
thing I need or desire is to get hauled into court for being an unwitting
agent for the spread of libelous statements.

I apologize for the inconvenience, and hope that I can resume carrying
the echo when the current childishness subsides.

Kevin G. Barkes
SYSOP
SYS$OUTPUT BBS
1:129/38


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* Origin: SYS$OUTPUT BBS * Library, PA * 412-854-0511 * (Opus 1:129/38)

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Date:     12-12-89 (13:15)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  GLOBE.EXE
From:     AMER NELSON

George -- could you please pass along what follows to Rodger Lea at
Chorus Systems in St Quentin en Yvelines, France???
One of my favorite utilities that operates under WINDOWS is called
GLOBE.EXE.  Everything is in French and I don't have any idea who
authored the program.  When I use the <<Choix>> pull-down menu and
select <<Recherche>> I get an error message which reads <<Fonction
non encore implementee>>.  Even I can come up with a translation --
function not yet implemented.
Could you check into it?  The date and time of GLOBE.EXE is 4-10-86,
9:45am.  I hope the program has been completed after 3 1/2 years.
Of course, I'm not even sure you've seen or used WINDOWS on the
Rainbow.
++ Amer++


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)

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Date:     12-12-89 (13:22)
To:       JIM GREELY
Subject:  RE: HARD DISK CONTROLLERS
From:     AMER NELSON

Some time back Alan Vymetalic posted a message that indicated that
someone had succeeded in hooking up the 159MEG RD-54 to a Rainbow.
Said one could get 4 - 32MEG partitions.
Any comments or knowledge regarding that possibility???
+Amer+


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)

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Date:     12-13-89
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: JOBSDUMP
From:     FRANK MALLORY

CH> By "stripes" do you mean small white lines between horizontal dot rows
CH> due to imperfect paper motion, or actually skipped whole-dot-rows?

I don't know which it is, but there are strips of white space about 1/8"
wide within the black image.

CH> As for interference with TSRs, I find it hard to believe that JOBSDUMP
CH> would care about either one of them.  However, I don't run HISTORY and
CH> don't have any problems, either.  Obviously you have to get out of what
CH> you're in to run JOBSDUMP, but it can give you a preview, and you can
CH> kill it if you don't like it.

The interference is definitely there.  It doesn't particularly bother me,
tho.

CH> Actually I thought some of the other suggestions you received for
CH> printing out of Rainbow Regis made more sense for your needs.

Guess I'd better go back and review them.

CH> Speaking which of, Rainbow REGIS won't run with RB-BUFFR installed, so
CH> how do you think that RB-BUFFR is interfering with JOBSDUMP?

Rainbow ReGIS works with RB-BUFFR as long as you install it first.  Evidently
you can't install RB-BUFFR and then try to invoke ReGIS; if you do, you get
the message "Rainbow ReGIS already installed", even tho it isn't.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (1:109/123)

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Date:     12-13-89 (23:43)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUFFR A
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

Let me get this straight; is this what you've done?:
1. you invoke RB-REGIS which gets you the $ prompt in graphcs mode
2. you install RB-BUFFR
3. after getting an image on the screen, you exit REGIS & invoke
JOBSDUMP?

Know what little I do about REGIS this sounds like a recipe for disaster.
REGIS is definitly NOT friendly to other software that wants the keyboard
interrupt.  I'd leave out RB-BUFFR and perhaps HISTORY too.  At the very
least when you exit REGIS you're probably creating a big hole in memory
unless it leaves itself resident.

As far as the 1/8" stripes go, I haven't a clue.  If there isn't something
funny about your printer programming or setup, it could be a side effect
of the TSR problems.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123

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Date:     12-12-89
To:       DAVID STRICKLER
Subject:  NOT ENOUGH !!
From:     GEOFF REED

DS>You refered to a 'kill file'. Does such a thing actualy exist in a
DS>exectutable form? If so, please let me know. At this point, I would
DS>like to kill all of Mark's msgs on this BBS. He has pissed off
DS>enough people (including myself) to warrent such actions.
DS>
DS>David Strickler
DS>Sysop of 101/45
DS>Midnight DEC (Boston)
DS>(617)739-0708 [Voice]

Mark, there Are at least 2 different ones.  I use Pixie on my bbs (send a
note to carl reek @ 343/6 to get a copy)
and then there is killrdog. I no-longer recieve any messages from mark here
in the rainbow echo, they're all sent to the  bit-bucket.

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* Origin: StarShip_Inconnu, Cruisin' the Stars  (1:6000/0)

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Date:     12-14-89 (07:42)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUF
From:     FRANK MALLORY

> Let me get this straight; is this what you've done?:
> 1. you invoke RB-REGIS which gets you the $ prompt in
> graphcs mode
> 2. you install RB-BUFFR
> 3. after getting an image on the screen, you exit REGIS
> & invoke
>    JOBSDUMP?
>
That's it, pretty much in a nutshell.  I'm using REGIS240, which gives me
VT240 terminal ID.  I normally invoke ReGIS and RB-BUFFR from within my AUTOEXEC
There doesn't seem to be any iterference between them as long as I invoke
RB-BUFFR second.  HISTORY likes to be invoked last of all, just before exiting
AUTOEXEC.  I have a RAM drive (a la SETRAM) that is occupying memory as well,
and I use COMSPEC to store COMMAND.COM in RAM.  FLU-SHOT is also in there.
That's all at present; sometimes I bring up SpeedCache, but I have not used
it lately because I need the memory for CB/V.

After logging onto the VAX via Kermit, I painted a graphics screen using
Datatrieve.  Then switched back, exited Kermit, and ran JOBSDUMP.

I'll try printing again, with all the TSRs disabled.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123

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Date:     12-14-89 (08:01)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: KILL FILES AND DOGS
From:     FRANK MALLORY

> (And yes, there are cases where ignorance is bliss!) I've
> heard of a
> similar capability for reading EchoMail called Kill Dog
> (or something

Yes, George, there's a program called KILLRDOG that will run on the PC or
Rainbow and delete all incoming messages in a specific area that contain
designated keywords.  I have had occasion to use it in the past and found
that it is really a slow process.  I believe that the situation will settle
down here pretty soon.  The problem is exascerbated by the fact that this
net is so widespread now (thanks to your efforts, which I applaud) that it
takes lightweeks for messages originating here to reach its outmost limits.
So we can expect reactions to continue to come in from distant nodes for
some time.  I'm sure that Mark will recognize that and forebear from responding
to messages that concern ancient history, so to speak.

So while of course, sysops are free to do whatever they want on their boards,
I recommend AGAINST setting up any mechanisms to screen out Mark Bornstein's
messages.  Mark has made many beneficial contributions here in the past,
and I am confident he will continue to do so once the current flap is over.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123

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Date:     12-14-89 (08:17)
To:       VAN VANHORN
Subject:  RE: CHIPS - AGAIN
From:     FRANK MALLORY

>
> 19-15123-03 Receiver, Line  26LS323  Sales code 277SY
> Unit price $6.00, total with FEDEX and tax for my location
> for 6 chips was $44.81.

Sounds good, Van.  I'm glad you could get them through DEC Direct, because
the minimum order through Unlisted Parts is $50.

Were you able to use the RB diagnostic or some other program to tell you
that this part had failed?


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123

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Date:     12-13-89
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW FTP SITES
From:     DAVID DEITCH

In a message of <Dec 11 19:17>, GEORGE THEALL (1:273/203) writes:
%I think that is the right address to reach them.  There are also msdos files
%available from wuarchive.wustl.edu which mirror the msdos archives at
%simtel20 on the milnet.  wuarchives also have amiga, apple II, atari, and
%mac archives from users groups.  For you gif fans, they also have a
%collection
%of gif graphics.

You mean my alma matter actually got it working?  When I was there only
last year they could not even get usenet to the engineering school
undergraduates. I am impressed.

Yours in FidoNet,

David Deitch
(GIS) 1:133/411

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Date:     12-14-89
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  LA50 PRINT PROBLEMS
From:     PAUL OLSON

Hi George,
My printer had that problem two years ago.  I had to have the printer's circuit
board replaced.  Seems something overheated or simply wore out. The DEC
field engineer didn't say which.
As Always,
Paul

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Date:     12-14-89
To:       MARK BORNSTEIN
Subject:  WRONG ASSUMPTIONS
From:     PAUL OLSON

Mark,
You must keep a file with all your old Email, 'cause I don't even remember
your commenting on CP/M (Yes, beloved, but old stuff too.  AmigaDOS is where
it's at!).  I could care less what your opinion is of CP/M.  The fact is
that I DON'T appreciate having to wade through all your personal attack
messages when all I want to do is to catch up on Rbw Echomail.  Art McClinton
is correct in remembering your attacks on Catt.  I remember them too.  Gee,
Mark, it seems you've used this forum for your personal attack forum before.
And more often than anyone else.Enough said.
Paul

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Date:     12-15-89 (19:02)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  FUNS WITH NETS
From:     GEORGE THEALL

FM>The problem is exascerbated by the fact that this
FM>net is so widespread now (thanks to your efforts, which I applaud) that it
FM>takes lightweeks for messages originating here to reach its outmost limits.

   Messages move across the other nets rather quickly, within hours of being
posted. Intercontenental links in BITNET, the Internet, and USENET are
implemented via high-speed lines with speeds approaching 1.5Mbps. Over
BITNET I have often held interactive "conversations" with people in Europe,
and response times have generally been quite good. And using the Internet I
can log onto machines across the world as well as across town.

   Of course, all this means little if people check mail/news only once
per week. :-)

George
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