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Article #132Re: Layoff rumors
From: pettengill
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 08:09
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 08:09
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In article <1992Jul24.032618.15040@panix.com>, dfl@panix.com (Danny O'Bedlam) writes: |> after hearing tonights report on All Things Considered that |>DECs second quarter results were a $1.8 BILLION loss. I think that |>15,000 is an incredibly SMALL number. The other rumored figure was |>30,000 and I'll bet thats right on the money. The 1.8 billion is not an operating loss; the operating loss for the quarter was less than 200 million. This is less than 5% of gross and DEC has over 100,000 employees world wide. About 1.5 billion represents various charges, that include among other things, write offs of investment in improvements to buildings (ie., if you close a plant, then the money spent years ago and capitalized for carpet, phones, etc., which has not been depreciated needs to be written off), money spent on severance pay in the future which is less than the salary that would have been paid over the next year, and so on. In general, the IRS will not allow losses of this nature to be reported for tax purposes, but the SEC requires that they be charged against income as soon as known, even cash won't be spent for months or even years. I'm not minimizing the negative aspects of the the past several years financials, but at the same time, I want to make it clear that DEC is not about to fold like a lot of other companies have done in recent years. DEC has always been very conservatively run, and as a result has essentially no debt, but on the other hand a conservative mind set can result in failing to accept that an asset is worth half today what it was worth yesterday; you can see wide spead evidence of this when you look at the prices of houses on the market relative to the prices of houses that have been sold. DEC has drastically reduced prices on computer systems in the past year, and as a result has sold more computers than ever. However, the reduced margins required even more sales volume to break even. Well, I'm personally of the opinion that we can generate the demand; if you think DEC has introduced a lot of products over the past year, wait until you see what is delivered in the next year. One thing is certain, Alpha systems are going to roll out much, much, much faster than VAX systems did. And CPU architecture and products is only one area that will see significant new products. mulp These opinions are those of a person who has a lot of faith, and stock, in DEC. Many people look to me for advise and wisdom, but I don't recommend that you emulate my actions as I have demonstrated that I neither give myself good counsel, nor follow my own good advice. I knew I shouldn't have bought that house six years ago....
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!decwrl!pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!engage.pko.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!cvg.enet.dec.com!pettengill From: pettengill@cvg.enet.dec.com () Subject: Re: Layoff rumors Message-ID: <1992Jul25.080938.10288@e2big.mko.dec.com> Sender: guest@e2big.mko.dec.com (Guest (DECnet)) Reply-To: pettengill@cvg.enet.dec.com () Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation References: <14nll1INNk4p@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1992Jul24.032618.15040@panix.com> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 08:09:38 GMT Lines: 44