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Article #2659Re: OpenVMS, OSF/1, Windows NT...oh my!
From: Mark Garrett Internet: mark Phon...
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 05:05
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 05:05
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From article <1992Sep17.155221.1303@innovative.com>, by jw@innovative.com: > In article <1992Sep17.065052.12294@engage.pko.dec.com>, sharpe@adodem.enet.dec.com writes: >> In article <BuBGBF.M8K@acsu.buffalo.edu>, kalisiak@acsu.buffalo.edu (Christophe M. Kalisiak) writes... > >>>Ah, but how many Intel-based machines can run three or more operating >>>systems at once? I have heard that one can run OSF/1, OpenVMS, and >>>Windows NT _concurrently_ on an Alpha box. > >> Now that would be a neat trick. Must be the VMS and OSF/1 servers/APIs running >> on NT :-) > > Well, page (II) 6-6 of the Alpha Architecture Reference Manual, which is a > publicly available document outside of nondisclosure, describes the Processor > Status register. There is a bit there called the VMM, for the virtual machine > monitor. "When set, the processor is executing in a virtual machine monitor." > It sounds to me like Alpha has hardware support for a virtual machine a-la > IBM's VM that would be capable of running multiple operating systems > simultaneously, as is the function of a virtual machine. > > Or, perhaps I'm reading too much into Dick Sites' PROGRAMMING NOTE: "This bit > is only meaningful when running PALcode that implements virtual machine > capabilties." I think your wrong. VMM is to allow PALcode to make the 21064 appear like it's a VAX chip or for that matter like any other CPU that you wish to imitate , rather than run native 21064. The way that OSF/1 (gold) and Windows NT would run together is that they both use a common micro kernel (Mach 3.0). With Mach the operating system env appears to the micro kernel as a server process. Mach is a large cross bar switch for message handling. The OS is out there with the application programs and gets a share of the CPU just the same. I thought VMS was going to be build on Mach 3.0 so that it to could move away from being VAX only. I had been recently lead to believe that the ALPHA version of VMS was still not Mach3.0 based. Can anybody shed light on VMS <-> Mach3.0 story? Cheers Mark :) -- Mark Garrett Internet: mark@arvak.une.edu.au Phone: +61 66 20 3859 University of New England, Northern Rivers, Lismore NSW Australia.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!munnari.oz.au!metro!grivel!alsvid!mark From: mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Garrett Internet: mark@arvak.une.edu.au Phone: +61 66 20 3859) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: OpenVMS, OSF/1, Windows NT...oh my! Message-ID: <BvHA5L.HG0@alsvid.une.edu.au> Date: 2 Oct 92 05:05:45 GMT References: <1992Sep17.155221.1303@innovative.com> Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore) Lines: 45