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In article <1992Nov21.130016.28986@alf.uib.no>, iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen) writes:
> Early this year DEC/Norway started pushing DECcampus as the way to go for
> research environments. Frequently it is impossible to get money for regular
> software maintenance while lump sums for purchasing something specific is 
> easier. After some thought we ordered 3 DECcampus licenses in mid February.
> The long awaited CDs finally arrived (once so far) in middle of October.
> Yet, already DEC seems to have cold feet and have started mumbling about 
> changing the contents of what the DECcampus contract is going to give us. 
> They are certainly right in that we have never signed a contract explicitly 
> laying out what DECcampus implies, but at least I would be exceedingly unhappy
> if DEC reneges on what they promised us:

If DEC never put what was being purchased on paper the contract starts
to get muddy. 

> 1) A lump sum for each node licensed.
> 2) A smallish sum each year to keep the CDs flowing afterwards. This sum is
>    independent on the number of nodes licensed.
> 3) Unlimited number of simultaneous users (VMS) on each node licensed.
> 4) Access to all products which have a license on the CDs. 

We have a bit of paper that lists this, only problem is that the renewal fee
is not specified.
 
> One very annoying thing is that all DEC is saying to us is that the original
> terms were too generous, but nobody seems to know exactly what that means or
> what the new terms are going to be.

If DEC make a mistake and give something away on terms that are "too
generous" then that is their own look out.

What this sounds like to me is that DEC Norway haven't got a clue what they
are playing at.

Try writing a letter to the next step up in the hierarchy saying how
incompetent your lot are. With a CC to your lot and a hint that such letters
will come in droves until they act up should get the message across.
 
> Have anybody heard anything about DECcampus in Europe? I know that it has been
> available in many countries recently, perhaps somebody know what DEC is going to
> do? At least for our site the future of DECcampus also decides what hardware and
> software we purchase in the future.

We still waiting for our CDs. DEC Germany is a competence free Zone. Mind you
same goes for most of German industry. Gross institutional stagnation because
everyone is on holiday for 6 weeks of the year (plus national hols).


Phill Hallam-Baker