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Started by Arcana Dragon
Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:17
Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Arcana Dragon
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:17
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:17
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There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether Deus Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. -- Arcana Dragon -==(UDIC)==- d++e++N++T+++Om-KAWML!34567'!S'!8!9!u+uC+uF+++uG-u LB�----uAnC+nH++nP+nI----nPT-nS+++nT----o---oE---xz http://www.phyton.dk/games.htm
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Mark Morrison
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:44
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:44
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On 05 Dec 2003 10:17:06 GMT, Arcana Dragon <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote: > >There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether Deus >Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > >My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. I think of it as aRPG/FPS hybrid, same as the System Shocks. -- Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes ! They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses ! And what's with all the carrots ? What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ? Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Mark Blunden
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:10
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:10
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Arcana Dragon wrote: > There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on > whether Deus Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > > My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. It's both. Whether that's as true of the sequel remains to be seen. -- Mark. * Note to self: shoot first, quip later
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Phil-on-a-hill
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:15
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:15
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"Arcana Dragon" <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in message news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... > > There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether Deus > Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > > My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. I guess it's an action RPG that leans more towards the action side of things.
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: perrer nerd
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:52
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:52
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"Arcana Dragon" <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in message news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... > > There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether Deus > Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > > My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. I would say it's both, but is there a common definition of CRPG you are using?
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Applebrown
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:04
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:04
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Deus Ex is an Action/RPG. Its role-playing elements: Dialogue options, Plot Twists in the story that you partially decide, Minor Statistics and to an extent, Character Classes without the title, Experience, Augmentations Its action elements: 1st Person shooting throughout, Real-time danger Tyson "Arcana Dragon" <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in message news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... > > There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether Deus > Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > > My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. > > > -- > Arcana Dragon -==(UDIC)==- > d++e++N++T+++Om-KAWML!34567'!S'!8!9!u+uC+uF+++uG-u > LB�----uAnC+nH++nP+nI----nPT-nS+++nT----o---oE---xz > http://www.phyton.dk/games.htm
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Simon Nejmann
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:26
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:26
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:52:13 -0800, "perrer nerd" <perenerd@operamail.com> wrote: >"Arcana Dragon" <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in message >news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... >> >> There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether >Deus >> Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. >> >> My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. > >I would say it's both, but is there a common definition of >CRPG you are using? Nope (does one exist?), and thats the problem... Guy A says: Don't discuss Deus Ex 2 in this group (dk.spil.computer, spil = games) - use dk.spil.computer.fps instead because Deus Ex 2 is a first person shooter. Guy B says: No, here is fine because Deus Ex 2 isn't a first person shooter; it's a role playing game. At this point the discussion has come to the: "You are stupid", "No, you are stupid" stage. Thus guy C (Arcana Dragon) started this thread to get some external (expert?) input. -- Regards Simon Nejmann
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Arcana Dragon
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:47
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:47
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Arcana Dragon <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk: > There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether > Deus Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. Thanks for all the input, guys! -- Arcana Dragon -==(UDIC)==- d++e++N++T+++Om-KAWML!34567'!S'!8!9!u+uC+uF+++uG-u LB�----uAnC+nH++nP+nI----nPT-nS+++nT----o---oE---xz http://www.phyton.dk/games.htm
Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
Author: Anders Albrechtsen
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:01
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:01
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"Simon Nejmann" <snejmann@worldonline.dk> wrote in message news:uli1tvo910k8lgbiduductr3bl7i956mm8@4ax.com... > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:52:13 -0800, "perrer nerd" > <perenerd@operamail.com> wrote: > > >"Arcana Dragon" <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in message > >news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... > >> > >> There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether > >Deus > >> Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > >> > >> My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. > > > >I would say it's both, but is there a common definition of > >CRPG you are using? > > Nope (does one exist?), and thats the problem... > > Guy A says: Don't discuss Deus Ex 2 in this group (dk.spil.computer, > spil = games) - use dk.spil.computer.fps instead because Deus Ex 2 is > a first person shooter. > > Guy B says: No, here is fine because Deus Ex 2 isn't a first person > shooter; it's a role playing game. Just to clarify my position (Guy B): I regard Deus Ex 2 as an action adventure since it contains elements from several genres including RPG, Adventure and Action (first person shooter). I posted in "dk.spil.computer" since we don't have a specific group for games with action elements or mixed genres such as "comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action", but just a general group "dk.spil.computer" and a sub-group "dk.spil.computer.first.person.shooter". This is unfortunate since games like Max Payne 1/2 and Freedom Fighters cannot be discussed in the same group as Medal of Honor and No One Lives Forever (because they use a 3rd person perspective) even though they are very similar. Game like Deus Ex and Morrowind hardly fit the first person shooter genre either which means that they should be discussed in "dk.spil.computer". However according to Guy A (Gerner) it is fine to discuss all games that use a first person perspective in the "dk.spil.computer.first.person.shooter" group, whether they have a shooting element or not. In his opinion all games that use a first person perspective are defined as first person shooters. I disagree since a first person shooter is a well-defined genre where shooting elements dominate the gameplay. > At this point the discussion has come to the: "You are stupid", "No, > you are stupid" stage. I think this is oversimplified. I admit calling Guy A's comments in regards to the placement of the thread rediculous and annoying, but I never called him stupid. --- Regards, Anders (Guy B)
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