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Re: Problem 80 wire cable for hard disk

#397
From: Rod Speed
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:45
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Desk Rabbit wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> ClueLess wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a strange problem, when I connect my hard disk
>>>>>>>>>>>> using the 80 wire cable my computer does not recognize it.

>>>>>>>>>>>> It happened this way. I had to check another hard disk and so I swapped the disks (IDE0) and found it was 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I connected the original hard disk and it was also
>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried both the IDE0 and IDE1 channels with the same result. I tried also other hard disks as well other 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 80 wire cables, still no go.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I found an old 40 wire cable and when connected with this, bingo, all the hard disks are recognized.

>>>>>>>>>>>> No pins broken, no hardware damage. All the cablea are in
>>>>>>>>>>>> good condition. In fact the machine for years worked with
>>>>>>>>>>>> only the 80 wire cable.

>>>>>>>>>>>> How does this happen? This is just a banana motherboard and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the problem is in the bios stage itself. (bios says "Not installed")

>>>>>>>>>>>> If any of you can give me an explanation or a solution please do

>>>>>>>>>>> And the hard drive make/model is?
>>>>>>>>>>> And the motherboard make/model is?
>>>>>>>>>>> And the BIOS version is?

>>>>>>>>>> All irrelevant given that the original hard drive isnt recognised anymore.

>>>>>>>>> Any information is useful at this point.

>>>>>>>> Wrong again.

>>>>>>> Without facts and information ant diagnostic is just pure guesswork.

>>>>>> And I told the OP how to diagnose the problem. No guesswork whatever involved.

>>>>>>>>> It may be a known problem

>>>>>>>> Bet it isnt.

>>>> And it turns out that when he posted that info, it isnt.

>>>>>>> Could be, maybe not. 50-50 chance of guessing correctly.

>>>>>> Wrong again. There is a much lower proobability than that that your guess is correct.

>>>>>>> 100% success with correct information.

>>>>>> Not with the information you requested there wont be.

>>>>>>>>> but without knowing what he's got the chances of finding out are less than zero.

>>>>>>>> Wrong again. The obvious thing to try is a another 80 wire
>>>>>>>> cable and check that the drive connectors are being plugged in the right way around if they arent polarised.

>>>>>>> I strongly suggest you go back and read the OP's message fully

>>>>>> I know what the OP said.

>>>>>>> before you dig yourself a deeper hole than you are already in.

>>>>>> You're the one desperately attempting to bullshit its way out of its predicament.

>>>>> Translation: Shit! He's right, better launch an attack.

>>>> Real Translation:  of your shit, I never ever could bullshit my way out of a wet paper bag.

>>>>>>> I'll draw your attention to the particular sentence which says:

>>>>>>> "I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go."

>>>>>> Doesnt eliminate the possibility that the OP isnt putting the drive connector on the wrong way around with a non 
>>>>>> polarised connector on the cable.

>>>>> Indeed it doesn't but one can reasonable assume that he roughly knows what he is doing in terms of putting cables 
>>>>> on the right way round as the 40 pin cable works.

>>>> You dont even know where they are polarised and the 80 wire cable connectors arent.

>>>>> Please feel free to carry on clutching at random straws, you might hit on a solution by sheer luck eventually ;-)

>>>> You never did. He posted the info you wanted and it turned out that it didnt help.

>>>> Funny that.

>>> Hilarious that another poster was able to post the correct jumper
>>> settings for the drive because now we know what the OP has.

>> The OP could have checked that for itself if told to do that without knowing what drive it was.

> Wriggle, squirm.. ROFL!

You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

>>>> Hilarious, actually.

>>>> Have fun bullshitting your way out of that.

>>> Have fun repeatedly swapping cables and wibbling about which way round they should go. It's really quite amusing to 
>>> watch.

>> Like I said, you never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

<reams of your puerile silly shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
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From: "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Problem 80 wire cable for hard disk
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