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Article #398

Re: Problem 80 wire cable for hard disk

#398
From: Desk Rabbit
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:29
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On 02/03/2010 18:16, Rod Speed wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>>>>> ClueLess wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a strange problem, when I connect my hard disk using
>>>>>>>>>>> the 80 wire cable my computer does not recognize it.
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>>>>>>>>>>> It happened this way. I had to check another hard disk and so
>>>>>>>>>>> I swapped the disks (IDE0) and found it was not recognized.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then I connected the original hard disk and it was also not recognized.
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>>>>>>>>>>> I tried both the IDE0 and IDE1 channels with the same result.
>>>>>>>>>>> I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Then I found an old 40 wire cable and when connected with this, bingo, all the hard disks are recognized.
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>>>>>>>>>>> No pins broken, no hardware damage. All the cablea are in
>>>>>>>>>>> good condition. In fact the machine for years worked with
>>>>>>>>>>> only the 80 wire cable.
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>>>>>>>>>>> How does this happen? This is just a banana motherboard and
>>>>>>>>>>> the problem is in the bios stage itself. (bios says "Not installed")
>
>>>>>>>>>>> If any of you can give me an explanation or a solution please do
>
>>>>>>>>>> And the hard drive make/model is?
>>>>>>>>>> And the motherboard make/model is?
>>>>>>>>>> And the BIOS version is?
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>>>>>>>>> All irrelevant given that the original hard drive isnt recognised anymore.
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>>>>>>>> Any information is useful at this point.
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>>>>>>> Wrong again.
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>>>>>> Without facts and information ant diagnostic is just pure guesswork.
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>>>>> And I told the OP how to diagnose the problem. No guesswork whatever involved.
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>>>>>>>> It may be a known problem
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>>>>>>> Bet it isnt.
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>>> And it turns out that when he posted that info, it isnt.
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>>>>>> Could be, maybe not. 50-50 chance of guessing correctly.
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>>>>> Wrong again. There is a much lower proobability than that that your guess is correct.
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>>>>>> 100% success with correct information.
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>>>>> Not with the information you requested there wont be.
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>>>>>>>> but without knowing what he's got the chances of finding out are less than zero.
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>>>>>>> Wrong again. The obvious thing to try is a another 80 wire cable and check that the drive connectors are being
>>>>>>> plugged in the right way around if they arent polarised.
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>>>>>> I strongly suggest you go back and read the OP's message fully
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>>>>> I know what the OP said.
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>>>>>> before you dig yourself a deeper hole than you are already in.
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>>>>> You're the one desperately attempting to bullshit its way out of its predicament.
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>>>> Translation: Shit! He's right, better launch an attack.
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>>> Real Translation:  of your shit, I never ever could bullshit my way out of a wet paper bag.
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>>>>>> I'll draw your attention to the particular sentence which says:
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>>>>>> "I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go."
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>>>>> Doesnt eliminate the possibility that the OP isnt putting the drive connector on the wrong way around with a non
>>>>> polarised connector on the cable.
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>>>> Indeed it doesn't but one can reasonable assume that he roughly knows what he is doing in terms of putting cables on
>>>> the right way round as the 40 pin cable works.
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>>> You dont even know where they are polarised and the 80 wire cable connectors arent.
>
>>>> Please feel free to carry on clutching at random straws, you might hit on a solution by sheer luck eventually ;-)
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>>> You never did. He posted the info you wanted and it turned out that it didnt help.
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>>> Funny that.
>
>> Hilarious that another poster was able to post the correct jumper
>> settings for the drive because now we know what the OP has.
>
> The OP could have checked that for itself if told to do that without knowing what drive it was.
Wriggle, squirm.. ROFL!

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>>> Hilarious, actually.
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>>> Have fun bullshitting your way out of that.
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>> Have fun repeatedly swapping cables and wibbling about which way round they should go. It's really quite amusing to
>> watch.
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> Like I said, you never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Here's a small task for you. Rearrange the following into a well know 
phrase or saying. Pot kettle calling black the.

Clue, try randomly juggling the words around until it makes sense.
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