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Started by Jason Thain
Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:00
Help - What RAM do I need to upgrade my PC?
Author: Jason Thain
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:00
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It's currently got: Two 72 pins SIMMS of 4MB each and 2 spare slots (so I'd like to put in two more 4MB SIMMS for a total of 16MB). The sticker on them says "Compaq Part: 160019-003. (It's not a Compaq PC!). I think they are probably 70ns, based on looking at the markings on the chips (Goldstar GM71C4400BJ70 9507 KOREA). The rear of the SIMMS are marked Goldstar E71042 GS19447 I don't know whether or not the chips have parity. Plus I don't understand the notation listed in the mags. i.e. Non-parity 1MB x 32 SIMMS 60 ns (4MB) - how is this so? Parity 1MB x 36 SIMMS 60 ns (4MB) - how is this so? I know I can use the 60 ns memory and it will run at the speed of the slowest memory on the board (i,e, 70 ns), but I don't know what to do about parity. The PC is a Pentium P60. Any advice gratefully received. TIA. Jason.
Re: Help - What RAM do I need to upgrade my PC?
Author: Tom Bird
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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Harry Broomhall <haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk> wrote in article <354ed9c8.3731000@netbsd.haeb.demon.org>... > Are there 8 or 9 chips on each stick? If 8 then they are > non-parity, if 9 then parity. They are 70ns. BUT - they are Fast > Page mode units, not EDO. There are also non parity 72 pin things that have 2 or 4 chips. My first 8Mb SIMM had 4 chips as has the pile I've since accumulated. The 4x16Mb I've got for my beast have 8 chips each. Probably just depends where you bought it. TB
Re: Help - What RAM do I need to upgrade my PC?
Author: Harry Broomhall
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:26:54 +0100, "Tom Bird"
<hamster@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Harry Broomhall <haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
><354ed9c8.3731000@netbsd.haeb.demon.org>...
>
>> Are there 8 or 9 chips on each stick? If 8 then they are
>> non-parity, if 9 then parity. They are 70ns. BUT - they are Fast
>> Page mode units, not EDO.
>
>There are also non parity 72 pin things that have 2 or 4 chips.
>
True - but my maths on his original post suggested that he had to
have 8 or 9 chip SIMMs.
Regards,
Harry.
Re: Help - What RAM do I need to upgrade my PC?
Author: Harry Broomhall
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:51:23 GMT, jason@thainjm.demon.co.uk (Jason
Thain) wrote:
>It's currently got:
>
>Two 72 pins SIMMS of 4MB each and 2 spare slots (so I'd like to put in
>two more 4MB SIMMS for a total of 16MB).
>
>The sticker on them says "Compaq Part: 160019-003. (It's not a Compaq
>PC!).
>
>I think they are probably 70ns, based on looking at the markings on
>the chips (Goldstar GM71C4400BJ70 9507 KOREA).
>
>The rear of the SIMMS are marked Goldstar E71042 GS19447
>
>I don't know whether or not the chips have parity.
>
Are there 8 or 9 chips on each stick? If 8 then they are
non-parity, if 9 then parity. They are 70ns. BUT - they are Fast
Page mode units, not EDO.
>Plus I don't understand the notation listed in the mags.
>
>i.e.
>
>Non-parity 1MB x 32 SIMMS 60 ns (4MB) - how is this so?
A byte is 8 bits - so 32 bits is 4 bytes. So 1Mb x 4 = 4Mb.
>Parity 1MB x 36 SIMMS 60 ns (4MB) - how is this so?
>
4 extra bits for parity - otherwise same calculation.
>I know I can use the 60 ns memory and it will run at the speed of the
>slowest memory on the board (i,e, 70 ns), but I don't know what to do
>about parity.
>
Best to match what you already have. This means getting Fast Page
mode SIMMs. You may find resistance from dealers about this - but
insist. 60ns is OK to mix with these though.
Regards,
Harry.
Re: Help - What RAM do I need to upgrade my PC?
Author: Tom Bird
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:00
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Harry Broomhall <haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk> wrote in article <35491049.2146908@netbsd.haeb.demon.org>... > On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:26:54 +0100, "Tom Bird" > <hamster@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >Harry Broomhall <haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk> wrote in article > ><354ed9c8.3731000@netbsd.haeb.demon.org>... > > > >> Are there 8 or 9 chips on each stick? If 8 then they are > >> non-parity, if 9 then parity. They are 70ns. BUT - they are Fast > >> Page mode units, not EDO. > > > >There are also non parity 72 pin things that have 2 or 4 chips. > > > > True - but my maths on his original post suggested that he had to > have 8 or 9 chip SIMMs. But if he buys any new RAM, it's quite likely to have 2 or 4 chips. They seem to sell both in equal quantities - I mean, my 8 chip 16Mb modules are brand new (upgraded from 64Mb of 70ns FPM to 64Mb of EDO - there is a difference. I think.) but the other day, I got 2x8Mb for a mate and they were 4 chips each. TB
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