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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:56:08 GMT, pre@mail.utexas.edu wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:36:31 -0600, "Freon" <See@signature.com> wrote:
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>><pre@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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>>I dont know about everyone else, but I would much rather buy the 3000 for
>>$20 more.
>>It has-
>>1. A higher clock speed out of the box with a heatsink already on the chip.
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>All you need is a fan for the 2000 - I had one lying around.
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>>I overclocked mine to 183Mhz.
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>Not all 3000's will go to the next level/3500 level/183mhz... some
>only go to 179/180. Even then if you get it up there you're best
>advised to use a fan.  So fan expenditure for clocking up to the next
>level board is equal between the 2000 and 3000.
Damn where do you buy fans at ?
the next level is all most a 100.00 difference.
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>>2. Higher triangle rate
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>Due purely to a faster mem/chip clock. If I clock the 2000 to 166 I
>get the same exact scores as the 3000 at 166. This point's moot.
Like the 3000 not all 2000 will overclock.
Also If it runs as hot as the 3000 the 2000's heatsink isn't going to
cut it and I'm sure you'll see lots of lockups. 
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>>2. A faster RAMDAC
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>Which you'll only appreciate if you need to run 2D at 1200x1600
>x75/85hz refresh - faster RAMDAC = higher refresh rates at extreme 2D
>resolutions..  Most of us don't go above 1024. Some of us don't even
>have a monitor capable of 75/85hz at stuff above 1024x1280 or even
>lower.   In 3D no difference baby.

So
some do
>
>>3. 2 full games and the special edition Descent3.  Plus a coupon for Unreal
>>Tournament.
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>Well, unofficially, can get all of them from alt.binaries.games and
>alt.binaries.cd-image.  But officially on this point if you don't
>already have NFS3 or Unreal it's already worth the extra $20.  UT is
>worth it too.  But i don't care about pack-in software. Others will.
So that's a yes ?

>>Is that not worth $20?
YES
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>One other point is the TV-out, which is also a plus in favor of the
>3000. However I've never thought TV-out was practical, or all that
>incredibly good.. the V3's is passable but not as good as Canopus' or
>Asus'.. even then it's kinda just a novelty - just my opinion.
>
>All in all however the 3000 is an awesome deal, biggest strongpoint is
>the strength of the pack-ins.

I think they're all some damn close in speed that if the 3000 wasn't
on sale I would have just gone with the 2000. But for 20 bucks I
figured the pack ins were worth it.
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>However I didn't need the pack-ins, I had a fan lying around, and
>didn't feel like spending the extra $20.  And I'm clocked at 180 now,
>no glitches.  I don't know how the hell 3dfx is gonna sell any 3500's
>with the cheaper cards being so damn overclockable.