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Article #693Re: TNT & Socket 7 K6-2 combo runs like crap! -- would V2 really be better? (was: Are there ANY games that use 3DNow *fully* bes...
From: steevo
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 00:00
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Same old bullshit.k6-2 Super7 and TNT runs fantastic. At 1024x768 , demo1 I get 41 fps with tnt. Voodoo2 with same settings yields 45 fps at 800x600. granted, over 60 fps can be had by disabling features such as the wepaon and the lighting effects, but whats the point? 41fps at 1024 looks awesome. Besides Is anyone playing at 320x200 to get 200fps??? BTW, Quake2 is still the only game in which I have seen a significant speed improvement from 3dnow, and even then only with the Voodoo2 . Most BabyAT Super7 users cannot fit 2 voodoo2's due to slot limitations so SLI is irrelevant. K6-2 300 @ 350 , Viper550 AGp , 128mb PC100, FIC 503+ mobo And to answer the original poster, If you have a TX based mobo I assume that means you are running at a 66mhz bus? In this case you should not expect performance like above with either card. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ steevo J-E-T-S JETS! JETS!! JETS!!! . MB wrote in message <368013be.0@news.mocc.net>... >But it is on the K6-2 systems. The TNT suffers bad on them. >He didnt say he was getting a Celeron did he? > >Lane Todd Denson wrote in message ><0lTf2.2635$vI5.514@news.rdc1.tn.home.com>... >>A single v2 is not significantly better than the TNT, and if you plan to >get >>a celeron300a/Abit BX combo soon, stick with the TNT (what are you waiting >>for? You can get both for under $200) >> >>joe <dreamlogic@nixspamsprintmail.com> wrote in message >>news:367fc0e8.1406563@news.earthlink.net... >>>Alas, this is the ONE time I did not take everyone's advice on Usenet >>>and now I'm suffering for it. So you think the V2 & or/Banshee will >>>DEFINITELY give me noticeably smoother gameplay with the current crop >>>of first person shooters? All I want is to be able to play these >>>games at their best image quality settings with respectable framerates >>>(25 -- 30 FPS), that is 800 X 600, 16-bit color & medium to high >>>detail settings. However, am I being unrealistic here & is this even >>>possible with a TX-based chipset motherboard, K6-2 300 MHz cpu & a >>>Voodoo 2 3D accelerator? Fortunately, I purchased the TNT card at >>>CompUSA & have recourse with their liberal return policy. But would >>>it really be worth it to swap the TNT for the V2 or Banshee? Don't >>>wanna be driving 50 miles out to CompUSA again to return the >>>V2/Banshee if it performs no better or only slightly better than the >>>TNT on my system. I can't even begin to tell you how disappointed I >>>am with the TNT/K6-2 combo. I mean, My old S220 Stealth II actually >>>played Blood 2 smoother than the STB Velocity 4400 at the same lower >>>resolution (640 X 480) & detail settings for God's sake!!!! Thanks >>>for responding. >>> >>>best, >>>joe >>> >>>On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:48:31 -0500, "Rob Fullerton" >>><robsNOSPAMtv@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>> >>>>The problem lies more in your choice of video card, not the system it is >>in. >>>>If you had chosen a V2 instead of the TNT, you probably wouldn't be >>posting >>>>any complaints. >>>> >>>>The Shuttle 569 is not a super socket 7, and the TNT would be easily >>beaten >>>>by a Voodoo2 in this system. Add to that the fact that 3DNow! is much >>better >>>>optimized for the V2. >>>> >>>>I have 2 systems running Hot 569's, K6-2 300 (at 375mhz), and Voodoo2's >>and >>>>they do scream in all of these games. This combo runs games faster than >>>>friends overclocked Celeron 300 and Spectra TNT card. If you are planning >>on >>>>sticking with a TNT, then when you upgrade, don't settle for less than an >>>>upper end P2, or you'll still be disappointed. >>> >>>>joe wrote in message <368010a4.22105567@news.earthlink.net>... >>> >>>>>Just bought a TNT card for my old standard Socket 7 Shuttle >>>>>HOT-569/K6-2 266 MHz (O/C to 300 MHz) combo & was very displeased to >>>>>see that games like Shogo & Blood 2 run like shit through a funnel on >>>>>it at 800 X 600. Are there any games besides Q2 that fully take >>>>>advantage of 3DNow? I can't believe that with so many under $1000 >>>>>K6-2-based systems being sold there isn't better 3DNow support. Until >>>>>I can afford to get a Celeron 300A & LX motherboard I'm stuck with >>>>>this rather disappointing K6-2 cpu and it's poor FPU performance so I >>>>>need all the help I can get in the way of hardware/software >>>>>acceleration. >>> >>>remove nixspam to reply via email >>> >> >> > >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ec8c,32e6a823c4cc0c95 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ec8c,public X-Google-Thread: 108f8e,32e6a823c4cc0c95 X-Google-Attributes: gid108f8e,public X-Google-Thread: f4bb2,32e6a823c4cc0c95 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bb2,public From: "steevo" <spamsux@home.net> Subject: Re: TNT & Socket 7 K6-2 combo runs like crap! -- would V2 really be better? (was: Are there ANY games that use 3DNow *fully* besides Q2?) Date: 1998/12/23 Message-ID: <75ptuj$oi5$1@winter.news.rcn.net> X-Deja-AN: 425079001 References: <368010a4.22105567@news.earthlink.net> <75ob35$2e6i$1@news.gate.net> <367fc0e8.1406563@news.earthlink.net> <0lTf2.2635$vI5.514@news.rdc1.tn.home.com> <368013be.0@news.mocc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com X-Trace: eCN41G0hOjQ2wJ6H8yMdR6+L8H2kolIRIcbWjnxQn0w= NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Dec 1998 05:09:39 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,3dfx.products.voodoo2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action