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I had the Geforce DDR in a P3 500 and I have the same card now in my Athlon 650
and it definitely runs faster on the Athlon.  Now, maybe that 150mhz difference
in processor speed has something to do with it, I don't know.  But it does run
better, for me at least, with the Athlon.

Jon Davis wrote:

> KNI / 3D Now! support aside, the Athlon has a much faster FPU unit, and as
> such is a much faster CPU, period.  However, with the advances in KNI / 3D
> Now!, and without such support on the GeForce256+Athlon, you do experience a
> performance hit.  Therefore, in my opinion, you'll probably get *almost* the
> same speed in GeForce256 applications on the Athlon as you will on the PIII.
> However, you will lose performance on the PIII outside of GeForce256
> applications.
>
> Jon.
>
> "dennis lonving" <dlonving@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:862tmt$gsb$0@dosa.alt.net...
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > There are so many words over the web about Athlon & GeForce...
> > I wonder if, with the last driver, a GeForce is still slower on an Athlon,
> > compared to a P3. Or is everything ok now ?
> > More, I suppose that the GeForce don't use the 3dNow! stuff, nor the
> > equivalent-stuff on a P3 (I've forgotten the name).
> >
> > You guess it : I'd like to know if I should buy a new P3 or a new Athlon
> to
> > boost my GeForce DDR.
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> > PS : If you answer in this newsgroup, please email me too, at :
> > dlonving@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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KNI / 3D Now! support aside, the Athlon has a much faster FPU unit, and as
such is a much faster CPU, period.  However, with the advances in KNI / 3D
Now!, and without such support on the GeForce256+Athlon, you do experience a
performance hit.  Therefore, in my opinion, you'll probably get *almost* the
same speed in GeForce256 applications on the Athlon as you will on the PIII.
However, you will lose performance on the PIII outside of GeForce256
applications.

Jon.


"dennis lonving" <dlonving@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:862tmt$gsb$0@dosa.alt.net...
>
> Hello,
>
> There are so many words over the web about Athlon & GeForce...
> I wonder if, with the last driver, a GeForce is still slower on an Athlon,
> compared to a P3. Or is everything ok now ?
> More, I suppose that the GeForce don't use the 3dNow! stuff, nor the
> equivalent-stuff on a P3 (I've forgotten the name).
>
> You guess it : I'd like to know if I should buy a new P3 or a new Athlon
to
> boost my GeForce DDR.
>
> Have fun.
>
> PS : If you answer in this newsgroup, please email me too, at :
> dlonving@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

My Athlon 500 outperformed a P3 600 (doubt it was a coppermine) in Quake3, I
think the benchmarks were at sharkyextreme. My system and the P3 were
similarly configured(both using 128 emgs ram, GeForce DDR, same Q3 settings,
etc...).

<april_ryan@my-deja.com> skrev i news:864pcp$b8h$1@nnrp1.deja.com
> Hi!
>
> I have a system with a AMD K7 500 and a Creative
> GeForce Pro DDRAM. Prior to this system I had a
> P3 500 with the same card. The ATHLON system is
> faster than the P3. The only problem is the
> drivers to the card. They suck! (when you play
> games) 2D performance++++. 3D still a long way to
> go. I use the latest drivers from Nvidia 368.
> Anyways, I feel that the ATHLON is the best buy
> inspite of the driver problems...:-)
>
> K7 RULES!
>
Had my Pro for 5 weeks now, no problems at all, works great beside my V2Sli
setup.
68 FPS in Q3 1024 HQ. 90 Fps UT avg in 1024*32 bit.(AsusP3B-F P3 oc806)
Maybe its the Athon+mb thats is the problem  :-)

Hi!

I have a system with a AMD K7 500 and a Creative
GeForce Pro DDRAM. Prior to this system I had a
P3 500 with the same card. The ATHLON system is
faster than the P3. The only problem is the
drivers to the card. They suck! (when you play
games) 2D performance++++. 3D still a long way to
go. I use the latest drivers from Nvidia 368.
Anyways, I feel that the ATHLON is the best buy
inspite of the driver problems...:-)

K7 RULES!


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In <862tmt$gsb$0@dosa.alt.net>, "dennis lonving" <dlonving@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>There are so many words over the web about Athlon & GeForce...
>I wonder if, with the last driver, a GeForce is still slower on an Athlon,
>compared to a P3. Or is everything ok now ?
>More, I suppose that the GeForce don't use the 3dNow! stuff, nor the
>equivalent-stuff on a P3 (I've forgotten the name).
>
>You guess it : I'd like to know if I should buy a new P3 or a new Athlon to
>boost my GeForce DDR.
>
>Have fun.

Generally when I found that the Geforce T&L is being used, the results 
are the same whether you are using an Athlon, Coppermine, older P3, or 
even an overclocked Celeron.  If and when you see an advantage, it tends
to be some few insignificant number of frames which can be attributed to
some driver optimization on a respective chipset.  The Geforce is an 
equalizer when T&L is used, but hardware T&L does not scale.

Right now, Geforce can enjoy AGP2X on BX, AGP4X on VIA 133A and 820 
chipsets, but only AGP1X on the Athlon Irongate chipset.  However, the 
Irongate chipset can enable AGP sidebanding which all the other chipsets
cannot (AGP sidebanding lets you transfer data from memory to video card
at true AGP rates, instead of PCIx2 rates.)  Thus this makes AGP2X and 
AGP4X on the other chipsets rather moot and useless unless they're 
rendering on main memory using AGP.    AGP sidebanding is found with 
Detonator 3.69 and with some registry tweaks (check http://www.3dnow.net 
or amdzone.com).

Also, Detonator 3.69 seems to have better 3DNow streaming support than 
3.68, and polygon stripping and setup seems faster on these drivers.

Rgds,

Chris


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