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Article #12093Re: Is Chicago really stand-alone?
From: Kyle Anthony York
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:31
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 23:31
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In article <3da67g$dli@newsserver.trl.OZ.AU> djewell@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (David Jewell - Radio and Satellite Networks) writes: >In article <3d7nnt$oos$1@sydney.DIALix.oz.au> hitman@sydney.DIALix.oz.au (The Hitman) writes: >> >>Yes Windows 95 is stand alone in a sense. Microsoft have combined all >>of DOS into one file basically speaking. So when the system starts it >>is similar to NT. Everything loads from Win 95. Reason.... so that everything >>loads above the 1Mb barrier, no more 640K base nightmares etc etc. > >Does this mean that the first meg of ram is wasted by Windoze95?, everything >being loaded above that barrier. > >On a similar vane.... Will Windoze95 require me to open a window in order >to run a DOS shell? In other words, will Windoze95 be as hard to >program as MacOS? > >thanks >DJ... > no, the 1st meg isn't wasted. a dos window can be opened exactly like it is currently opened. you click on the ``command'' button whatever it happens to be named & you've a dos shell. no, windows 95 is not stand alone. it loads in a very similar fashion to dos + windows now, only somewhat more transparently. the `one file' mentioned above is msdos.sys + io.sys combined. i think config.sys is still used for loading the 16 bit drivers, which still reside under 1M and are thunked into use under 32 bits. dos 7 is little more than dos 5 (oh, sorry, 6) compiled for 32 bits. it does NOT support NTFS, which i find absolutly bizarre. it does support long filenames, but in an undocumented way, similar to OS/2 (surprise). not to bash m/s, because i think some of the new interface features are pretty nice, but i still prefer warp because it does DOS better. one ALWAYS gets a window > 600K when at the dos prompt, unlike chicago --kyle
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d683,582e8c0baaa0bd3e X-Google-Attributes: gid10d683,public X-Google-Thread: f53ba,582e8c0baaa0bd3e X-Google-Attributes: gidf53ba,public X-Google-Thread: 108c83,582e8c0baaa0bd3e X-Google-Attributes: gid108c83,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-12-21 15:31:39 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!noesis From: noesis@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Kyle Anthony York) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,aus.computers,aus.computers.ibm-pc Subject: Re: Is Chicago really stand-alone? Date: 21 Dec 1994 23:31:39 GMT Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz Lines: 43 Message-ID: <3dadss$gfl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.941215090041.22936A-100000@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> <3d7nnt$oos$1@sydney.DIALix.oz.au> <3da67g$dli@newsserver.trl.OZ.AU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu