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Re: Analog Tape Hiss & Dither

#267
From: Arny Krueger
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:17
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"John Atkinson" <stereophile_editor@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@pop3free.com> wrote in message
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> > Now that I've finally gotten John Atkinson to admit over in RAHE
that
> > tape hiss CAN act as dither, Dormer is my number one candidate
for
> > "Ostrich of the Year".

> Mr. Krueger, I have no idea why you are raising my name in
newsgroups
> to which I do not subscribe, hence my crossposting this response to
> r.a.o.

Gee John you've never mentioned my name behind my back? Come on,
you've admitted it on RAO! Oh, I get it. It's OK for you to mention
my name behind my back, but not vice-versa. Rank has its privileges
and all that, right?

>However, to examine this statement of yours above, the discussion
> to which you are referring involved your claims that the "room
sound"
> on live recordings would act as dither, not "tape hiss." As was
pointed
> out to you at the time by others, this background noise is far too
"red"
> to provide any dithering action.

It's not my fault if people don't believe in linear superposition.

> With respect to tape hiss or even electrical noise, both of which
> are "whiter" in color than acoustic background noise, whether or
not
> these can act as dither will depend on their exact level and
spectrum.

> I don't believe I have said otherwise.

I seem to recall a major tooth-pulling session getting you to agree
with that w/r/t tape hiss.

>What I have said is that if the
> noise is too far above the digital noise floor, then it will be
treated
> by the ADC just as any other component of the original analog
signal.

Mr. Atkinson, are you saying that if a noise signal has an
appropriate PDF and PSD, but is too far above the LSB, it can't
possibly provide the benefits of dither?  Please do tell...
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