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Article #295Re: Arny Kruegers rants about the Live! rejected
From: Paul D.
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:23
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:23
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grasso@my-deja.com (Ulrich Grassberger) wrote: >>You have been spitting blood and teeth about the frequency response of >>the Live! making all sorts of outrageous pronouncements, driving >>customers away, yet.. straight out of the box I turn out a palatable >>+0.3/-0.5 dB from 20Hz to 19Khz. >> >>http://home.clara.net/media/scans/fr.jpg >>[Analog 48Khz, 16bt, 32768pts, Flattop] >> >That upper-end cutoff story is nonsense, no ear cares for a dB more or >less at 19KHz. Agreed.. I don't think the plot by itself indicates much that would be audible. >>With the digital outputs I get a whopping >>92dB S/NR compared to your 80dB, and an even flatter signal response >>than with analog. >Yeah, Arny misinterprets most results because he does not have the >appropriate background knowlege. I'm not going to argue with you about this :-) >Yeah, he seems to mess up some things some times. If the results are >strange he doesn๏ฟฝt bother to investigate further, to investigate if HE >HIMSELF might have made a mistake instead of the soundcard beeing bad. Disappointing really. Based on what I've learnt so far, I think if he had been more pro-active Creative might have been pressurised to do something really useful with their drivers that would have pleased a lot of customers. >>>The apparent claim that there is a significant difference between >>>what is in the boxes that you put in your computer. >> >>Example? >> >Many: grassomusic.de/english/rauschen.htm midi.htm#ct4830 sb.htm I couldn't get this link to work? Nice job on your site though. I was reading through it the other night. A lot of it went right over my head to be honest.. but I learned a lot! >MIPS is a nonsense count: grassomusic.de/english/hardware.htm That's true.. Alpha chips are a good demonstration of that too. -- S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
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