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Re: Arny Kruegers rants about the Live! rejected

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From: Paul D.
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:23
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grasso@my-deja.com (Ulrich Grassberger) wrote:

>>You have been spitting blood and teeth about the frequency response of
>>the Live! making all sorts of outrageous pronouncements, driving
>>customers away, yet.. straight out of the box I turn out a palatable
>>+0.3/-0.5 dB from 20Hz to 19Khz.  
>>
>>http://home.clara.net/media/scans/fr.jpg
>>[Analog 48Khz, 16bt, 32768pts, Flattop]
>>
>That upper-end cutoff story is nonsense, no ear cares for a dB more or
>less at 19KHz. 

Agreed.. I don't think the plot by itself indicates much that would be
audible.

>>With the digital outputs I get a whopping
>>92dB S/NR compared to your 80dB, and an even flatter signal response
>>than with analog.

>Yeah, Arny misinterprets most results because he does not have the
>appropriate background knowlege.

I'm not going to argue with you about this :-)

>Yeah, he seems to mess up some things some times. If the results are
>strange he doesn๏ฟฝt bother to investigate further, to investigate if HE
>HIMSELF might have made a mistake instead of the soundcard beeing bad.

Disappointing really.  Based on what I've learnt so far, I think if he
had been more pro-active Creative might have been pressurised to do
something really useful with their drivers that would have pleased a
lot of customers.

>>>The apparent claim that there is a significant difference between
>>>what is in the boxes that you put in your computer.
>>
>>Example?
>>
>Many: grassomusic.de/english/rauschen.htm midi.htm#ct4830 sb.htm

I couldn't get this link to work?

Nice job on your site though.  I was reading through it the other
night.  A lot of it went right over my head to be honest.. but I
learned a lot!

>MIPS is a nonsense count: grassomusic.de/english/hardware.htm

That's true.. Alpha chips are a good demonstration of that too.


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