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Article #306Re: Arny Kruegers rants about the Live! rejected
From: Trevor
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:52
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:52
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"Roj" <rojramsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:nja6gt4lb8151pj6nldb2su0442etfr6g7@4ax.com... > On Thu, 17 May 2001 02:09:00 +0100, Paul D. <media@clara.net> wrote: > > >Roj, I am not saying what you are hearing is *necessarily* subjective, > >but that your comments are of a subjective nature. Even blind tests > >are subjective.. it's not an insult. > > It's an argument I have heard in many a discussion and is most often > used to dismiss descriptions of sound qualities that are difficult to > quantify with regular tests. > > I take the view that sound is sound and something that can be heard, > described and pointed out to **someone else** cannot be subjective, > because it can in fact be easily recognized by another person. Most > listeners are quite untutored in that they don't know how to listen > for specific sound characteristics or qualities. However, that being > said, most can also be shown how to look for certain sound > characteristics, especially in an A-B situation. I totally agree, and therefore double blind tests should present no problem to people who can not only hear the differences but describe them to others. I'm always surprised why it isn't so simple. The problem is that equipment doesn't have distortion or not, timbre changes or not, good decay characteristics or not, as has been implied. It has varying degrees of accuracy sometimes better or worse in different areas and shows up differently depending on program material and sound level. However is anybody actually denying that the SC is better than the SB live? I doubt it. Trevor.
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