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Article #2458Re: Excel 4.0 Microsoft help system???
From: John T. Chapman
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 13:49
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 13:49
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In article <torrie.715572109@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> Evan Torrie,
torrie@cs.stanford.edu writes:
>>I just upgraded to Excel 4.0 and am puzzled by this message
>>I get from time to time. Every once in a while when I try to
>>access HELP, I get a requestor which says something like THE
>>MICROSOFT HELP SYSTEM IS OUT OF MEMORY and then a second
>>requestor that says UNABLE TO ACCESS HELP. After getting these
>>requestors, I checked ABOUT EXCEL and find 1.9 megs, of the 2
>>megs alloted to Excel, available. Once I get the help system
>>requestor, I cannot access HELP again until I restart Excel.
>
> I had these problems with an extension conflict. In my
>case, I could NEVER get the Help system up (even after immediately
>starting up Excel) so long as I had this particular extension
>installed.
> Unfortunately, I can't remember what the offending extension was,
>(although it may have been MemInit) but I would suggest that this is
>probably your problem. Try removing extensions and see what happens.
I think I can solve your problem.
See, with release 4.0 of MS Excel, Microsoft decided to make their
program 'modular'. Unfortunately, they carried this to an extreme (one
I'm not pleased with).
Excel 4.0, when it runs for the first time, installs a folder called
Microsoft in your Extensions folder (Sys 7; probably just in Sys. Folder
in earlier systems). Contained within this folder you will find two more
folders: Help and Spelling.
Help contains a few files, including the Microsoft Help APPLICATION,
which is called by Excel 4.0. This has a default memory partition of
512K. Chances are, Excel tries to launch this, finds that it cannot in
the remaining memory, and dies ungracefully.
I'm sure the reason for these folders lies in the idea that all newer
releases of MS products (Word 6, when it comes out?) will share this
folder of common MS Utilities.
The thing that gets me is that the folder is pretty big and I had stuck
Excel out on my Network folder with the express intention of freeing up
hard drive space. But no, Excel feels that it has to put this in your
System Folder, even though there is a perfectly good copy out here in the
network folder. What's more, even though this is probably Read-Only,
AutoDoubler won't touch it as it is in the System Folder. Arghh!!!
Anyway, check to see how much contiguous memory you have left after
launching Excel. If that seems enough, try increasing the partition size
for Microsoft Help. If that doesn't help, call up Microsoft and threaten
to blow up their corporate headquarters. (You might wish to check for
INIT (ahem, Extension) conflicts first, though) :-)
Good luck!
-John
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