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Re: BLATANT ADVERTISING!! (Kinda longish)

#5098
From: Josh Hartmann
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 1990 17:21
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In article <4098@network.ucsd.edu>, jon@weber.ucsd.edu (Jon Matousek) writes:
|> In article <1990Nov28.145957.10136@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
|> rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) writes:
|> >In article <4088@network.ucsd.edu> jon@weber.ucsd.edu (jOn mAtOUsEk) writes:
|> >>Don't believe them, try it out for yourself. E-mail me your name and
|> >>address for a free Nisus 3 demo disk. Any questions call Paragon's

|> >Is anyone else as sick and tired as I am of seeing this BLATANT ADVERTISING
|> >for Nisus any time someone asks a question about MS Word??

YES! Read on!

|> >For that matter, doesn't this kind of advertising violate netiquette?

YES! Read on!

|> I personally do not consider my postings "BLATANT ADVERTISING."
|> I do this by providing a service that retailers will
|> not provide; informing folks on the net about how Nisus will solve a problem,
|> and offering a free demo disk to prove it. Is this really so bad? I realize
|> that this is considered borderline advertising and that is why I have taken to
|> adding the words "Try Nisus" to the title of the article. This offers the
|> offended the chance to "junk", "kill" or whatever the article.
|> -jOn

This is more than "borderline advertising. Read on:

In "Rules for posting to Usenet" in news.announce.newusers, Gene Spafford
<spaf@cs.purdue.edu>writes:
|> Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet is allowed;
|> however, since someone else is paying the phone bills for this, it is
|> important that it be of overall benefit to Usenet.  Post to the
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> appropriate newsgroup -- comp.newprod -- never to a general purpose
|> newsgroup such as "misc.misc".  Clearly mark your article as a product
|> announcement in the subject.  Never repeat these -- one article per
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> product at the most; preferably group everything into one article.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Advertising hype is especially frowned upon -- stick to technical
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> facts.  Obnoxious or inappropriate announcements or articles violating
|> this policy will generally be rejected.  This policy is, of course,
|> subject to change if it becomes a problem.

You see, these repeated announcements of Nisus are NOT of overall benefit
to Usenet. And repeated articles are expressly forbidden.
So please, send Mail, and don't post.

Josh
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From: josh@athena.mit.edu (Josh Hartmann)
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Subject: Re: BLATANT ADVERTISING!! (Kinda longish)
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Date: 29 Nov 90 17:21:42 GMT
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