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Virtual PC
#12460
Author: Stan Robinson
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:52
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Hi Everyone,

My computer is an iMac 400 with 192 of Ram. I would appreciate hearing
from the Mac fraternity their thoughts on running Virtual PC on this
computer. I am sight impaired and currently run the Mac version of IBM"s
ViaVoice. The problem is it takes longer to correct the indecipherable
jargon and errors produced by the programme, than it does to write an
Email or letter with impaired vision and 2 finger typing.

They (IBM) have recently released a new version for the Windows
platform. It's features seem much superior to the current Mac version.

The question is:

Will my computer handle (at normal operating speed) the Windows version
of VV using Virtual PC???

I have tried making contact with IBM in the UK, but have received no
reply to my question:
When will the Mac version be updated???



Would appreciate some help,


Thank,


Stan Robinson.
Re: Virtual PC
#12461
Author: George Clark
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:24
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In article 1ej5yzz.1127eftfjxyeyN%sjr@vic.ozland.net.au on 10/29/00 19:52,
Stan Robinson wrote:

> Will my computer handle (at normal operating speed) the Windows version
> of VV using Virtual PC???

I don't have ViaVoice, but do have VPC and a G3/466 (so it's not too
different from your setup). VPC, even on a fast Mac, can still be almost
painfully slow for certain things. My guess is that voice recognition would
be one of them.

George
Re: Virtual PC
#12463
Author: David M. Fresco, Ph.D.
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 08:18
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In article <B6212CB0.3D32%gaclark@sprynet.com>, George Clark 
<gaclark@sprynet.com> wrote:

>I don't have ViaVoice, but do have VPC and a G3/466 (so it's not too
>different from your setup). VPC, even on a fast Mac, can still be almost
>painfully slow for certain things. My guess is that voice recognition would
>be one of them.

I would agree with George although I do not have first hand experience 
with via voice on VPC in emulation.  However, is there not a new Mac 
version of Via Voice?

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Adult Anxiety Clinic of Temple     fresco@astro.ocis.temple.edu    
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Re: Virtual PC
#12462
Author: Ribfeast
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:15
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Version 2 is out for mac you know...

Stan Robinson wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> My computer is an iMac 400 with 192 of Ram. I would appreciate hearing
> from the Mac fraternity their thoughts on running Virtual PC on this
> computer. I am sight impaired and currently run the Mac version of IBM"s
> ViaVoice. The problem is it takes longer to correct the indecipherable
> jargon and errors produced by the programme, than it does to write an
> Email or letter with impaired vision and 2 finger typing.
>
> They (IBM) have recently released a new version for the Windows
> platform. It's features seem much superior to the current Mac version.
>
> The question is:
>
> Will my computer handle (at normal operating speed) the Windows version
> of VV using Virtual PC???
>
> I have tried making contact with IBM in the UK, but have received no
> reply to my question:
> When will the Mac version be updated???
>
> Would appreciate some help,
>
> Thank,
>
> Stan Robinson.
Re: Virtual PC
#12464
Author: Matthew Smith
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:54
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In article <1ej5yzz.1127eftfjxyeyN%sjr@vic.ozland.net.au>, 
sjr@vic.ozland.net.au (Stan Robinson) wrote:

> Will my computer handle (at normal operating speed) the Windows version
> of VV using Virtual PC???

I think I heard that voice recognition does not work under Virtual PC. 
Yo should check this with Connectix before purchasing the software.

-- 
Matthew Smith
(to reply via email replace xxx with au)
Re: Virtual PC
#12465
Author: Chris Newman
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:55
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Check the minimum system requirements for VV

Virtual PC running on my IMac 233 is equivalent to about a theoretical 110
Mhtz Pentium so I assume yours would be equate to a 200 Mhtz Pentium


> From: sjr@vic.ozland.net.au (Stan Robinson)
> Organization: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,aus.computers.mac
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:52:30 -0800
> Subject: Virtual PC
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> My computer is an iMac 400 with 192 of Ram. I would appreciate hearing
> from the Mac fraternity their thoughts on running Virtual PC on this
> computer. I am sight impaired and currently run the Mac version of IBM"s
> ViaVoice. The problem is it takes longer to correct the indecipherable
> jargon and errors produced by the programme, than it does to write an
> Email or letter with impaired vision and 2 finger typing.
> 
> They (IBM) have recently released a new version for the Windows
> platform. It's features seem much superior to the current Mac version.
> 
> The question is:
> 
> Will my computer handle (at normal operating speed) the Windows version
> of VV using Virtual PC???
> 
> I have tried making contact with IBM in the UK, but have received no
> reply to my question:
> When will the Mac version be updated???
> 
> 
> 
> Would appreciate some help,
> 
> 
> Thank,
> 
> 
> Stan Robinson.
> 
> 
Re: Virtual PC
#12466
Author: David Empson
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:06
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Chris Newman <newman@dynamite.com.au> wrote:

> Check the minimum system requirements for VV
> 
> Virtual PC running on my IMac 233 is equivalent to about a theoretical 110
> Mhtz Pentium so I assume yours would be equate to a 200 Mhtz Pentium

That is very theoretical.

For repetitive CPU-bound tasks on a G3 with sufficient RAM, VPC can
achieve the speed of a Pentium running about half the clock speed of the
Mac.  Running an older operating system generally improves the
performance (DOS is better than Win95, which is better than Win98).

For anything involving complex graphics and/or sound, it runs a lot
slower.  Graphics in general are slower than on a real PC - screen
updates in Windows are noticeably jerky compared to a real PC.

Games are a good example: anything complex will run very poorly on VPC.

I've tried the following on VPC running Win95 with my iMac DV (400 MHz
G3).

Command & Conquer DOS version: works fine.
Command & Conquer Win95 version: sluggish.
Red Alert Win95 version: sluggish to very slow.
Dune 2000 Win95 version: sluggish.
C&C Tiberian Sun: hardly even updates the screen.  Unplayable.
StarCraft Win95: a little slower than it should be, but usable.

C&C DOS requires a 33 MHz 486, so VPC is definitely faster than that.

StarCraft requires a 90 MHz Pentium, suggesting that for this type of
program, VPC is running at something between 75 and 90 MHz on my iMac.

Dune2000 requires a P90 and recommends a P133.

Tiberian Sun requires a P166 and recommends a P200.  VPC is nowhere near
this speed.  (I've played Tiberian Sun on a PC with a P233, and it was
sluggish but playable.)
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