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Started by Marx, Peter,PRT
Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:06
ETO-expensive,toothless,obsele
Author: Marx, Peter,PRT
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:06
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:06
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ETO - Expensive, Toothless, and Obselete? I'm a big fan of ETO, but I must agree with Craig Steele from down the street. Why bother renewing? I can't figure out what's on disc no. 10 - there certainly seems to have been no progress with MacApp (after all, known to be dead), with C++ (it is being replaced), or with MPW (dying.) Maybe I need an update to SADE, a product I've never used? not! If anyone knows of something on ETO that is worth re-subscribing to, please let me know. I haven't seen much in the way of wonderful development tools coming out for the Mac in quite a while. I don't have a lot of faith in Bedrock and don't see why the Macintosh community would at this point. I would love for Symantec and Apple to prove me wrong, but it seems that their attentions are being directed at other things (fonts, pc exchange cdevs, etc.) Peter Marx UCLA Medicine
Re: ETO-expensive,toothless,obsele
Author: Ken Wallich
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:50
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:50
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MARX.PETER@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Marx, Peter,PRT) writes: >ETO - Expensive, Toothless, and Obselete? :-) >I would love for >Symantec and Apple to prove me wrong, but it seems that their attentions are >being directed at other things (fonts, pc exchange cdevs, etc.) Well, I'd guess they're intentions are to create a complex (and from what I hear, prohibitively expensive) development system for the 'new mac' and assure that there is no competetion. As it stands now, if I don't want to use MPW to do "serious" development, I can use the far less expensive Think C. I've owned both MPW and Think C for a long time (although I stopped upgrading them both a while ago). If Symantec and Apple co-develop an expensive development environment, who will author the inexpensive one, Microsoft ;-)? It's enough to make you wish you'd just supported windows all along. After all, even though it's a mediocre system, it's always been mediocre, and always will be. You know where you stand with them, and they seem to encourage system development by guys with normal jobs who like to program in their copius free time. Ok, so they don't really have a good object-oriented development environment. Give 'em a couple more years. They'll ship a mediocre one, and marginally improve it. You know what to expect, how long it will take, and that it will be cheap. Ok, I'll eat my sarcastic hat now... -- Ken Wallich wallich@ncd.com ~ ken@wallich.com ~ kmw@al.org ~ [...]decwrl!vixie!amber!ken
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