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5 total messages Started by John Thu, 03 Apr 2003 16:15
Codewarrior and Trolltech Qt?
#836
Author: John
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 16:15
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Please excuse if you've read this before.  I'm reposting because I
don't see the original I posted 2 days ago.

The latest Mac version of Trolltech's Qt multi-platform GUI
application framework has matured into a viable option for
multi-platform development (v3.1.2).  For example, Qt was used by
Adobe to make Adobe Album.  The problem is that Qt is only supported
under Project Builder.  Like many here, I prefer to use Codewarrior
for my developement.  When I asked Trolltech about Codewarrior
support, I got the following response:

Does Trolltech have any plans to suppport the Metroweks compiler?
If so when?

>Short answer:
>We do not have any current plans to support Codewarrior (Metrowerks'
>compiler and IDE). If we get help from Metrowerks to do do this,
and/or if
>there is a strong demand from many customers, we will reconsider.

Apparently Trolltech had originally planned to support Codewarrior,
but has run up against a technical barrier they need Metrowerks help
to conquer.  My question (aimed squarely at MWRon) is: Does Metrowerks
have any plans to support the folks at Trolltech in their quest to
bring Qt to Codewarrior?  Since most old-school Mac developers use CW,
wouldn't bringing Qt to Codewarrior would be a lucrative move for both
companies?

Also, if any developers here would like to use Qt under Codewarrior,
please make your thoughts known to Trolltech (support@trolltech.com). 
Trolltech is a demand-driven company so if no one inquires, nothing
will happen.

Those of you who use or heard of Qt in these forums, what has been
your experience?  I've been using v3.1.2 and have been impressed by
the large widget set, good widget geometry management, thorough
documentation, and plentiful examples.  Installation is a pain
(un-mac-like) and compilation of the library is slow (under PB), but
once you've gotten past that point, the learning curve is not too
difficult.

For reference.  Here are links to trolltech and Qt:

Qt for Mac:
http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/mac.html

Trolltech home page:
http://www.trolltech.com/

Thanks,

John

PS - I am not affiliated with Trolltech in any way.  Just a developer
who'd like to port his applications to Windows and Unix with a minimum
of hassle.
Re: Codewarrior and Trolltech Qt?
#837
Author: MW Ron
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 18:07
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In article <ea6831ab.0304030815.6f563831@posting.google.com>,
 macjohn123@yahoo.com (John) wrote:

>Please excuse if you've read this before.  I'm reposting because I
>don't see the original I posted 2 days ago.
>
>The latest Mac version of Trolltech's Qt multi-platform GUI
>application framework has matured into a viable option for
>multi-platform development (v3.1.2).  For example, Qt was used by
>Adobe to make Adobe Album.  The problem is that Qt is only supported
>under Project Builder.  Like many here, I prefer to use Codewarrior
>for my developement.  When I asked Trolltech about Codewarrior
>support, I got the following response:
>
>Does Trolltech have any plans to suppport the Metroweks compiler?
>If so when?
>
>>Short answer:
>>We do not have any current plans to support Codewarrior (Metrowerks'
>>compiler and IDE). If we get help from Metrowerks to do do this,
>and/or if
>>there is a strong demand from many customers, we will reconsider.

I imagine they are thinking of something other than what you are 
thinking of.


>Apparently Trolltech had originally planned to support Codewarrior,
>but has run up against a technical barrier they need Metrowerks help
>to conquer. 

I've worked with TrollTech's support before and I'm not aware of any 
problems they need our help for.

> My question (aimed squarely at MWRon) is: Does Metrowerks
>have any plans to support the folks at Trolltech in their quest to
>bring Qt to Codewarrior?  Since most old-school Mac developers use CW,
>wouldn't bringing Qt to Codewarrior would be a lucrative move for both
>companies?

As far as I know there are no known problems with QT from TrollTech.  I 
recall a year ago that they used a Microsoft implementation of a 
Standard Library function which was wrong and that was the only hang up. 

I'm not aware of any other problems and I was under the impression that 
people were successfully using it.


>Also, if any developers here would like to use Qt under Codewarrior,
>please make your thoughts known to Trolltech (support@trolltech.com). 
>Trolltech is a demand-driven company so if no one inquires, nothing
>will happen.
>
>Those of you who use or heard of Qt in these forums, what has been
>your experience?  I've been using v3.1.2 and have been impressed by
>the large widget set, good widget geometry management, thorough
>documentation, and plentiful examples.  Installation is a pain
>(un-mac-like) and compilation of the library is slow (under PB), but
>once you've gotten past that point, the learning curve is not too
>difficult.
>
>For reference.  Here are links to trolltech and Qt:
>
>Qt for Mac:
>http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/mac.html
>
>Trolltech home page:
>http://www.trolltech.com/
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
>PS - I am not affiliated with Trolltech in any way.  Just a developer
>who'd like to port his applications to Windows and Unix with a minimum
>of hassle.

I don't know why it isn't working for you now, did you try it?

Ron

-- 
       Migrate your PowerPlant Applications to Windows
    http://www.metrowerks.com/MW/Services/OEM/default.htm

Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com
Re: Codewarrior and Trolltech Qt?
#838
Author: Jøhnny Fävòrítê (it means "genet...
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 18:35
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John wrote:
> Those of you who use or heard of Qt in these forums, what has been
> your experience?

I used it in a previous job.  It's pretty good and very well documented.
However, it's prohibitively expensive.

If I were starting a cross-platform project today I'd give wxWindows a
try.  It's quite a lot like Qt except open-source and free.  The
documentation is very good.  There are ports for MacOS8, MacOS9, and
OSX/Carbon, with an OSX/Cocoa port on the way.  It works with many
compilers, including CodeWarrior.  It's supported by a large and
enthusiastic user base and the fact that you've got all the source code
means any problems encountered shouldn't stay problems for long.

  http://www.wxwindows.org/
Re: Codewarrior and Trolltech Qt?
#834
Author: Steven Fisher
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:56
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J�hnny F�v�r�t� (it means "genetic antagonism") <this.is@fake.com> wrote in message news:<PM0003BA6B4A8E744E@minion.nashville.comcast.net>...

> If I were starting a cross-platform project today I'd give wxWindows a
> try.  It's quite a lot like Qt except open-source and free.  The
> documentation is very good.  There are ports for MacOS8, MacOS9, and
> OSX/Carbon, with an OSX/Cocoa port on the way.  It works with many
> compilers, including CodeWarrior.  It's supported by a large and
> enthusiastic user base and the fact that you've got all the source code
> means any problems encountered shouldn't stay problems for long.
> 
>   http://www.wxwindows.org/

I looked into this. But it explicitly does not support exceptions, and
that's a bit of a problem.
Re: Codewarrior and Trolltech Qt?
#835
Author: Jøhnny Fävòrítê (it means "genet...
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:04
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Steven Fisher wrote, about wxWindows:
> I looked into this. But it explicitly does not support exceptions, and
> that's a bit of a problem.

Not true.  The library itself does not use exceptions, but there's
nothing stopping you from using code that does, nor from using
exceptions in your own code.
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