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In Article <3smg6d$650@tst.hk.super.net>, Fritz Hagi <fritzha@hk.super.net>
wrote:
>I have a problem with my PB520c with GV Mercury internal modem.  When I start 
>my PB and leave it for a while or when I'm using it, suddenly, Config PPP
starts.  
>Does anybody have this kind of problems? Please help me. 
>

There is a lot of work going on with MacPPP. Stand by for an improvement.

You might try the "Hard Close" button.
I had to go back to SLIP to use Versaterm-Link


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In Article <3smg6d$650@tst.hk.super.net>, Fritz Hagi <fritzha@hk.super.net>
 wrote:
> >I have a problem with my PB520c with GV Mercury internal modem.  When I
start 
> >my PB and leave it for a while or when I'm using it, suddenly, Config PPP
> starts.  
> >Does anybody have this kind of problems? Please help me. 
> >

Yes I have also had the same problem. My Powerbook spontaneously dials
even while sitting in the Finder with no other applications active. I
thought it might be related to the SNMP extensions, trying to report
status or something, but it still happens after disabling them.

My current guess is that a failed connection attempt gets put in a queue
to retry later and somehow the "later" gets interpreted to mean several
weeks later.

In article <garges-2606951750240001@garges.ucsc.edu>, garges@cats.ucsc.edu
(Kenneth Garges ) wrote:

>In Article <3smg6d$650@tst.hk.super.net>, Fritz Hagi <fritzha@hk.super.net>
> wrote:
>> >I have a problem with my PB520c with GV Mercury internal modem.  When I
>start 
>> >my PB and leave it for a while or when I'm using it, suddenly, Config PPP
>> starts.  
>> >Does anybody have this kind of problems? Please help me. 
>> >

Oh yeah..I thought I was the only one with this problem.  It does it on
both my desktop machine and my PB520c.  One time I was going to the
bathroom at 3:00am and I heard my modem dialing...what the hell? :) 
Almost every morning after my computer dialed it has a "Idle Timeout PPP"
dialog so it dials, connects then times out.  It's really annoying..kinda
like it has a mind of it's own.  It doesn't seem to be consistent.  It
doesn't dial at any specific time, and sometimes it keeps dialing and
dialing after I say "QUIT" damn it "QUIT" until I just have to restart. 
That bug would be painful if your ISP charged you by the hour!

                                                Mark

-- 
<a href=http://www.wolfe.net/~svendsen/>my home page</a>

In article <svendsen-2606951842370001@yak-ts1-p17.wolfe.net>,
svendsen@wolfe.net (Mark Svendsen) wrote:

>In article <garges-2606951750240001@garges.ucsc.edu>, garges@cats.ucsc.edu
>(Kenneth Garges ) wrote:
>
>>In Article <3smg6d$650@tst.hk.super.net>, Fritz Hagi <fritzha@hk.super.net>
>> wrote:
>>> >I have a problem with my PB520c with GV Mercury internal modem.  When I
>>start 
>>> >my PB and leave it for a while or when I'm using it, suddenly, Config PPP
>>> starts.  
>>> >Does anybody have this kind of problems? Please help me. 
>>> >
>
>Oh yeah..I thought I was the only one with this problem.  It does it on
>both my desktop machine and my PB520c.  One time I was going to the
>bathroom at 3:00am and I heard my modem dialing...what the hell? :) 
>Almost every morning after my computer dialed it has a "Idle Timeout PPP"
>dialog so it dials, connects then times out.  It's really annoying..kinda
>like it has a mind of it's own.  It doesn't seem to be consistent.  It
>doesn't dial at any specific time, and sometimes it keeps dialing and
>dialing after I say "QUIT" damn it "QUIT" until I just have to restart. 
>That bug would be painful if your ISP charged you by the hour!
>
>                                                Mark
>


Same problem, but on a 7100/66 PowerMac. No explanation.

This problem seems fairly widespread, so has anyone got a real cure?

BTW, make sure you set Config PPP to quiet mode, or it may hang on to a
phone line until you respond to the alert box in the morning -- could be
expensive!

Regards, Malcolm Norris

Regards, Dr Malcolm O Norris

In article <svendsen-2606951842370001@yak-ts1-p17.wolfe.net>,
svendsen@wolfe.net (Mark Svendsen) wrote:

: In article <garges-2606951750240001@garges.ucsc.edu>, garges@cats.ucsc.edu
: (Kenneth Garges ) wrote:
: 
: >In Article <3smg6d$650@tst.hk.super.net>, Fritz Hagi <fritzha@hk.super.net>
: > wrote:
: >> >I have a problem with my PB520c with GV Mercury internal modem.  When I
: >start 
: >> >my PB and leave it for a while or when I'm using it, suddenly, Config PPP
: >> starts.  
: >> >Does anybody have this kind of problems? Please help me. 
: >> >
: 
: Oh yeah..I thought I was the only one with this problem.  It does it on
: both my desktop machine and my PB520c.  One time I was going to the
: bathroom at 3:00am and I heard my modem dialing...what the hell? :) 
: Almost every morning after my computer dialed it has a "Idle Timeout PPP"
: dialog so it dials, connects then times out.  It's really annoying..kinda
: like it has a mind of it's own.  It doesn't seem to be consistent.  It
: doesn't dial at any specific time, and sometimes it keeps dialing and
: dialing after I say "QUIT" damn it "QUIT" until I just have to restart. 
: That bug would be painful if your ISP charged you by the hour!
: 

I've never experienced this problem, but can recommend something to try.

There's an application called MacPPP Timer, which, in addition to
performing a useful service (keeping track of how long you're logged on),
seems to perform an even "harder" close than the ConfigPPP "Hard Close"
button.

I'm at a loss to explain why this should be, but I had certain daemons
that would re-dial even after I did a hard close. Since I started using
MacPPP Timer,  I've had no more problems. 

I'm not sure where it's available (I think I got it from a user group) but
it's definitely worth looking for.

--Art

-- 
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http://www.tiac.net/users/artc
finger artc@artc.tiac.net for PGP public key

In article <AC15D68E966828C9B@ppp1.enterprise.net>,
mon@odpr.org (Dr Malcolm Norris) wrote:

[...MacPPP spontaneous autodialing...]
> Same problem, but on a 7100/66 PowerMac. No explanation.
> 
> This problem seems fairly widespread, so has anyone got a real cure?

The only reliable fix is to close any connection you make with "Hard 
Close" which disables the auto-dial feature of MacPPP. I haven't *heard* 
of anyone who has switched to doing that still suffering these 
spontaneous dial attempts.

-Alan.

-- 
Alan Staniforth ** alan@bones.demon.co.uk ** alan_s@cix.compulink.co.uk
"Meum est propositum/In taberna mori,/Ut sint vina proxima/Morientis ori."
       -- Anon.

In article <AC15D68E966828C9B@ppp1.enterprise.net>,
mon@odpr.org (Dr Malcolm Norris) wrote:

>In article <svendsen-2606951842370001@yak-ts1-p17.wolfe.net>,
>svendsen@wolfe.net (Mark Svendsen) wrote:
>
>>In article <garges-2606951750240001@garges.ucsc.edu>, garges@cats.ucsc.edu
>>(Kenneth Garges ) wrote:
>>
>>>In Article <3smg6d$650@tst.hk.super.net>, Fritz Hagi <fritzha@hk.super.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> >I have a problem with my PB520c with GV Mercury internal modem.  When I
>>>start 
>>>> >my PB and leave it for a while or when I'm using it, suddenly, Config PPP
>>>> starts.  
>>>> >Does anybody have this kind of problems? Please help me. 
>>>> >
>>
>>Oh yeah..I thought I was the only one with this problem.  It does it on
>>both my desktop machine and my PB520c.  One time I was going to the
>>bathroom at 3:00am and I heard my modem dialing...what the hell? :) 
>>Almost every morning after my computer dialed it has a "Idle Timeout PPP"
>>dialog so it dials, connects then times out.  It's really annoying..kinda
>>like it has a mind of it's own.  It doesn't seem to be consistent.  It
>>doesn't dial at any specific time, and sometimes it keeps dialing and
>>dialing after I say "QUIT" damn it "QUIT" until I just have to restart. 
>>That bug would be painful if your ISP charged you by the hour!
>>
>>                                                Mark
>>
>
>
>Same problem, but on a 7100/66 PowerMac. No explanation.
>
>This problem seems fairly widespread, so has anyone got a real cure?
>
>BTW, make sure you set Config PPP to quiet mode, or it may hang on to a
>phone line until you respond to the alert box in the morning -- could be
>expensive!
>
>Regards, Malcolm Norris
>
>Regards, Dr Malcolm O Norris

Yes, I have had the same problem, but it seems to occur only when I turn
off the modem before doing a hard close on macPPP, or if I have been using
other modem software or have been printing.

Definately a bug in MacPPP.

In article <AC174B9F966832B3@yarn.demon.co.uk>,
taka@yarn.demon.co.uk (Paul Talacko) wrote:

> Yes, I have had the same problem, but it seems to occur only when I turn
> off the modem before doing a hard close on macPPP, or if I have been using
> other modem software or have been printing.

That would explain it. From a casual look at MacPPP's (rather messy) source
code, it's conceivable that a close where MacPPP doesn't get to control the
process properly would not get treated as "hard".

> Definately a bug in MacPPP.

Or at best a misfeature...

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