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Re: Filtering as a way of implementing undo

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From: David Phillip Oster
Date: Sun, 31 May 1987 11:20
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In article <863@apple.UUCP> lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>>The combined pair present us with a new virtual document, or view,
>>that contains ...

>
>The same idea is useful in implementing Undo.  
>
>For example, consider selecting all the shapes in a MacDraw document and
>changing their shades to white.  To save the old state of the document would
>require storage proportional to the size of the document, which would be
>unacceptable.  

I know that this is how MacApp does it, but frankly I've never understood
why:

1.) A filter implementation of undo seems bad from a human factors
point of view: 

  One of the advantages of a personal computer over a terminal
connected to a time sharing system is that the personal computer owner
can expect a consistant response time from his system. The studies I
see say that even if your personal system is slower than the average
response of a time-sharing system, you will tend to be more satisfied
with the personal system because you have a good feel for how long
things are going to take.
  Now, a filter undo system throw this all away. When you issue a
command, the time it takes to complete is equal to the time it takes
the CPU to compute the filter for this command (a constant, just like
before we had undo) and the time it takes the cpu to do _the previous
command_ which it only pretended to do when you issued it. So, a
filter undo system throws away one of the great user-interface
advantages of a pesonal computer: consistant time behavior.

2.) A filter implementation of undo seems no better from a storage
usage point of view:
  Let's take a common, but tougher case than the one Larry used:
suppose, in a text editor you do a complex pattern-matching
search-and-replace command that scans an entire large document, doing
its thing, and as a side effect changing the length of every single
line so that the whole document gets its line-breaks re-computed. Next
the user uses the scroll bar to move a long way in the document. A
filter undo system is either going to have to do a hell of a lot of
computation (and generate a lot of intermediate transient data
structures) or it will avoid the computation by, in effect, pre-doing
it and caching a lot of data structure. either way, the space could
easily be as large as an extra copy of the portion of the document
that changed.

3.) A filter implementation of undo seems bad from a programming
complexity point of view.
  A filter implementation of undo requires that you write, for each
command that mutates the data structure, a routine that does the real
work, and also a routine that pretends to have done the work.  These
two routines are very different from each other: one is concerned with
changing a data structure, the other with spoofing data structure
accessors into believing that the structure has changed.
  The alternative is to actually do the operation, and change the data
structure, but to execute a preamble that saves away enough
information that an inverse-function can be applied to change the data
structure back if the user says to.  You need to write the mutator
function, the preamble function, and the inverse-mutator function. I
use this scheme in my programs. One of the nifty things about this
scheme is that the mutator function is often identical to the
inverse-mutator function. (Copy-to-clipboard, rename-file,
change-color, change-size, and change-font are a few operations that
have this self-inverse property.)

Suppose Macintosh programs had not only <command>-Z (UnDo) but also
<command>-M (Undo more) i.e. run this document editor session
backwards in time, one editor step at a time. Let's think about what
this would mean for the implementation of the program:

  Another advantage of the actually-do-it school of undo is that if I
ever decide to implement more undo than just undo-the-last-operation,
all I need do is manage a list of those records that my preambles
made for me. Just takes some space. On the the other side, the
filter-scheme of undo means I'd have to keep layering filters between
the real data and what the user sees. Each filter takes compute power
each time it is used (imagine scrolling through a document that had to
percolate the data through 10 layers of active filter before you could
see the result of your scroll command.)

Obviously, I don't understand some of the philosophical details of the
filter-school of undo very well.

Obviously you guys at Apple have put a lot of thought into how to
implement undo. Please tell me some of the thinking behind your decision.
--- David Phillip Oster            -- "The goal of Computer Science is to
Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu -- build something that will last at
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Subject: Re: Filtering as a way of implementing undo
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