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3 total messages Started by Gantt Edmiston Fri, 04 Sep 1992 20:14
Adding 3rd party memory to PC's
#278
Author: Gantt Edmiston
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 20:14
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Hi, I'm in the market for my very first PC.  I've saved and saved (for years)
and watched the PC market as it has evolved and even better, as prices
have fallen through the floor.  As it will become apparent, I don't know
a lot about what I'm buying, thus this posting.

After lots of looking around and asking friends for recommendations, I
have probably decided on a Gateway 2000 486DX2/66mHz ISA  machine.
Several trade journals recommend the DX2 machines and all suggest that
a *minimum* CPU cache of 128K is the way to go.  Unfortunately, Gateway
only offers 64K cache.  Their sales representative suggests that I could
get the cache increased but they do not currently do it.  They even gave
me the number of a guy who sells cache memory!  I called him and he said
that all I need to do was to pull 8 chips out and insert his 8 chips and
cache would go from 64K to 256K!  And all for $69.00 for the set of 8
chips!  Now this sounds too good to be true!  Is this kosher?  He did 
mention that a jumper would have to be changed and the books that come
with the PC should show me how to do this.  Is this standard or is there
a possibility that the Gateway system doesn't have the sockets for the
new (and larger) chips?

EVERYTHING else in the lineup of features meets or exceeds my personal
requirements for my new PC with the exception of the cache memory.  Anybody
done this, with success.  Obviously no one has the system described above
cause Gateway hasn't shipped the first one yet.  They say in about 6 weeks.

Still, if anyone can shed some light in this area, I would be most
appreciative.  I tried calling Gateway back but unfortunately they require
that I speak with *my* sales rep who has gone for the holiday weekend. =-(

Guess they are making money faster than they care for....

You can reply directly back to me, or post, either way is greatly appreciated.


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Re: Adding 3rd party memory to PC's
#279
Author: Jim Disbrow
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 22:05
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In article <Bu2LKx.9Ir@unx.sas.com>, sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston) writes:
|> 
|> Hi, I'm in the market for my very first PC.  I've saved and saved (for years)
|> and watched the PC market as it has evolved and even better, as prices
|> have fallen through the floor.  As it will become apparent, I don't know
|> a lot about what I'm buying, thus this posting.
|> 
|> After lots of looking around and asking friends for recommendations, I
|> have probably decided on a Gateway 2000 486DX2/66mHz ISA  machine.
|> Several trade journals recommend the DX2 machines and all suggest that
|> a *minimum* CPU cache of 128K is the way to go.  Unfortunately, Gateway
|> only offers 64K cache...

Gantt,

I(we) have a Gateway 2000 486DX2/50 EISA (not ISA and not 66mHz) but it comes
with 128KB direct mapped cashe.  The manual shows how it can be easily
upgraded to a 256KB two-way set associative cache system.  On my system board
you need the following:

	One 128K SRAM SIMM module
	Two tag SRAMs (28 ppin DIP IC)
	One LRU SRAM (28 ppin DIP IC)

no setting of switches and/or jumpers.
Again, this is for the Gateway 2000 486DX2/50 EISA using Intel's 82350
EISA chipset.

I suggest if you're gonna do something like that, wait til *your* sales
rep returns after the holiday.

Hope this helps.
Jim Disbrow

work: 805/258-3417
home: 805/948-1363

internet:  disbrow@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov

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Re: Adding 3rd party memory to PC's
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Author: Dave Grabowski (KxiK)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 06:52
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In article <Bu2LKx.9Ir@unx.sas.com> sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com writes:

>Several trade journals recommend the DX2 machines and all suggest that
>a *minimum* CPU cache of 128K is the way to go.  Unfortunately, Gateway
>only offers 64K cache.  Their sales representative suggests that I could
  (deleted stuff..)

  I have a GW486/33E. In the manual, it gives detailed instructions on
how to upgrade the cache, including exact part numbers and the like.
However, it also states that ugrading the cache will provide little, if
any (and it makes a big point of this) difference. I figure GW2K is
doing one of two things: 1) they are telling us the truth, or 2) they
discovered that the motherboard doesn't like the expanded cache very
much, and decided to lie to us.

  I'll stick with the first. My system is so fast it's mind-boggling.
Well, not quite. I'm saving up for the DX2 to stuff in it.. <Grin>

-Dave
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