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Re: Flickering in new 17" Trinitron monitor

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From: nevin
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:19
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In article <1992Dec20.182151.3909@lilliput.fdn.org> joseph@lilliput.fdn.org  
(Joseph Goldstone) writes:
> Philip McDunnough writes
> > In article <6116@rosie.NeXT.COM> Ross_Werner@next.com writes:
> > 
> > [Flickering, ND and the new 17" NeXT monitor]
> > 
> > Is the new 17" monitor an officially supported product with the NeXT  
> Dimension?
> > 
> > Philip McDunnough
> > philip@utstat.toronto.edu
> > 
> 
> Seemingly so.  My 17" FIMI got whomped so hard in the process of being  
shipped  
> from LA to Boston and then to Paris that the shadow mask is no longer  
> completely attached internally, so I kinda have no choice but to go get a  
> replacement.  By the time I could get the insurance investigation filed, the  
> FIMI had been removed from the pricelist and so I called NeXT and asked them  
> what the chances were of using the new monitor with my NeXTdimension.
> 
> Apparently it works pretty well.  As was told to me maybe 6 weeks ago, if you  
> have an Olde Systeme like mine, Olde '040, Olde ND, Olde SoundeBoxe, Olde  
> Keyboarde, &c, the display works but with the following quirk: the active  
area  
> of the display is shifted offcenter, I forget exactly howmuch, maybe 3/16" if  
> memory serves, and I forget to which side.
> 
> This I can live with.  Right now the monitor is really limping, there is no  
way  
> you could use it to produce colored imagery that wouldn't look ridiculous on  
a  
> correct system (there are big blotchy shadows in various places on the  
screen,  
> in one quadrant the whites are cyanotic, and so on).  For me, 3/16" of an  
inch  
> seems like a pretty small price to pay to fix this situation.  If your  
monitor  
> is working as well as a decently-tuned FIMI can manage, and what you want to  
> fix is the lack of the Sony sharpness, maybe 3/16" is too annoying.
> 
> ------
> 
> I have been talking to NeXT about paying to get my ND refurbed from NTSC to  
> PAL, which is apparently doable, but you have to ship the board to the  
factory,  
> where they do a PAL (as in the silicon, not the TV standard) replacement, and  
> then do a bunch of tuning and calibration, presumably on that equipment rack  
> whose picture was in the last NeXTWORLD.  Probably this is wishful thinking,  
> but maybe an old ND could be factory-adjusted to shift back that 3/16"?  I  
must  
> be dreaming.  If I ever find out more about either the price of the NTSC/PAL  
> change, or the possibility of eliminating the 3/16", I'll post something.

You'll lose about 5/8" of screen real-estate all the way around the the edge,  
plus the screen will be shifted about 3/16" to the right (thus giving you about  
a 13/16" black edge on the left, and about a 7/16" black edge on the right).

Well, actually, if I want to get REALLY picky, the real-estate loss is larger  
on the sides than it is on the top and bottoms (the loss is a percentage of  
original size, and the monitor is wider than it is tall, hence the loss on the  
width is more than the loss on the height), but as I sit here looking at the  
monitor, 5/8" seems like a good average number to report.

The screen shift is easily adjustable internally.  You can do nothing for the  
remaining 5/8" screen loss around the edges without distorting the picture.

I have one hooked to my ND.  It's much preferable over the Fimi's, even with  
the shrunken image.

BTW, this gives you a ~96 DPI razor sharp Trinitron display instead of 92 DPI  
crapola Fuzzy-Fimi display.  Believe me, you can get used to it.

--
Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
NeXTmail preferred, but ONLY at my REAL email address: nevin@dtint.dtint.com

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