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Re: Multi Line BBS

#1301
From: Vareck Bostrom
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:32
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In article <1992Dec20.152822.29515@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>In article <dillon.0t21@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>>    * If you fill up the disk and the NeXT runs out of swap it crashes
>>      hard.

I keep wondering about this. My NeXTCube has never crashed though
it's run out of disk space on "/" (Same partition as the swap space)
many times. Some times I have several large Improv worksheets, Mathematica,
ImageViewer and several other things running ... vm_stat reports 
something like 20 pages free (i.e. out of real memory) and the disk is
full..df reports 101% use on /, but the machine does not crash. I keep
worrying about it because everyone has told me it would crash, but it never
does. I've got 24MB in my cube..

I have 16MB in my turbo color slab and it does crash when the disk
fills up where the swap space is. I wonder if its because the slab
runns 3.0 and the cube runs 2.1 , or because the cube has 24 MB real 
while the slab has only 16 MB, or what.


>>    * No resource limits (NeXT ignores everything but the stack size limit)
>>    * No process/thread limits
>	  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
>
>	Surely you jest.  Surely, certainly, the OS of the future is
>	not so threadbare that it lacks features that most versions
>	of UNIX have these days..?
>

Well, i have noticed the quota system missing from the NeXT..and while it might
be nice for a BBS machine, I have never missed the process / thread limits
so common to the rest of the world. I hate the "csh: fork failed" that I
get on our HP's every time a big assignment is due and I try to fire up
emacs, cc, or anything. 

I can live without a BBS system for the NeXT for a while...who cares?
ftp seems to work pretty well. 

What I would REALLY like for the next is a good communications program
(kinda free, like so many of the PC world) that includes ZModem.

'I have tried IComm but it kinda takes over the machine, and I hate that.
I know there are comm programs that cost money out there but ...sigh.
I like going down to the local "HardWare Shop" , pointing at a 
Supra 14.4 modem and having a NeXT flow control cable and _NeXT_ 
communication software included. This MAC software that came with the
modem doesn't work well with NeXTs (or at all, in fact) .

I'm one of those people who hates mail order and must HAVE IT TODAY, and
NeXT software is simply not that available yet. Oh Well. 

Stick with our machines, guys..someday......

-Vareck
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From: bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom)
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Subject: Re:  Multi Line BBS
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