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Article #1301Re: Multi Line BBS
From: Vareck Bostrom
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:32
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:32
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In article <1992Dec20.152822.29515@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes: >In article <dillon.0t21@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes: >> * If you fill up the disk and the NeXT runs out of swap it crashes >> hard. I keep wondering about this. My NeXTCube has never crashed though it's run out of disk space on "/" (Same partition as the swap space) many times. Some times I have several large Improv worksheets, Mathematica, ImageViewer and several other things running ... vm_stat reports something like 20 pages free (i.e. out of real memory) and the disk is full..df reports 101% use on /, but the machine does not crash. I keep worrying about it because everyone has told me it would crash, but it never does. I've got 24MB in my cube.. I have 16MB in my turbo color slab and it does crash when the disk fills up where the swap space is. I wonder if its because the slab runns 3.0 and the cube runs 2.1 , or because the cube has 24 MB real while the slab has only 16 MB, or what. >> * No resource limits (NeXT ignores everything but the stack size limit) >> * No process/thread limits > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ > > Surely you jest. Surely, certainly, the OS of the future is > not so threadbare that it lacks features that most versions > of UNIX have these days..? > Well, i have noticed the quota system missing from the NeXT..and while it might be nice for a BBS machine, I have never missed the process / thread limits so common to the rest of the world. I hate the "csh: fork failed" that I get on our HP's every time a big assignment is due and I try to fire up emacs, cc, or anything. I can live without a BBS system for the NeXT for a while...who cares? ftp seems to work pretty well. What I would REALLY like for the next is a good communications program (kinda free, like so many of the PC world) that includes ZModem. 'I have tried IComm but it kinda takes over the machine, and I hate that. I know there are comm programs that cost money out there but ...sigh. I like going down to the local "HardWare Shop" , pointing at a Supra 14.4 modem and having a NeXT flow control cable and _NeXT_ communication software included. This MAC software that came with the modem doesn't work well with NeXTs (or at all, in fact) . I'm one of those people who hates mail order and must HAVE IT TODAY, and NeXT software is simply not that available yet. Oh Well. Stick with our machines, guys..someday...... -Vareck
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU!flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU!not-for-mail From: bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multi Line BBS Message-ID: <1h6jq3INNolm@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: 21 Dec 92 16:32:03 GMT Article-I.D.: flop.1h6jq3INNolm References: <1992Dec18.080158.19384@netcom.com> <dillon.0t21@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <1992Dec20.152822.29515@wam.umd.edu> Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Lines: 54 NNTP-Posting-Host: flop.engr.orst.edu