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4 total messages Started by Robert Alexander Wyatt Wed, 28 Oct 1992 19:43
New Keyboard, ADB, NeXT, and the run-around
#35
Author: Robert Alexander Wyatt
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 19:43
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Can anybody out there set me straight on the availability of an upgrade path for
the new keyboard/mouse...I have a Station Color Turbo and read in NeXTWORLD that
Color Turbo owners would be able to upgrade...then the ordeal began...I have
spoken with four different people at NeXT, each of whom has told me something
different...one said no upgrade policy...the second said - sure, get a new
soundbox and startingpoint kit...the third said no way...and the fourth told me I
would need a new motherboard, soundbox, startingpoint kit, and monitor...but he
said in the future I needed to pay to obtain such information as I apparently am
merely a lowly user and don't have some screwed up service contract...never mind
my warranty or the fact that I shelled out a lot of cash for the system...

NeXT makes wonderful hardware (except keyboards) and software but I think that as
the company grows we are beginning to see the same ills that plagued Apple under
Jobs...he's an idea man (not to mention a genius) but has proved time and time
again that he isn't corporate...

Well, I really want a new keyboard...the old one is a complete piece of junk...I
think it is extremely unfair of NeXT to not provide an upgrade path for EVERY
system out there...switching to the ADB standard is going to leave a lot of users
shut out from future ADB add-ons...that's not cool...

And NeXT needs to get its act together in way of information...when a product is
announced EVERYBODY at the company should have the info...it is unfair to the
customer to be given the run-around...

Needless to say I still have no clue as to what the real story is in regard to
upgrading...if anyone knows, please pass it along!

Later,
Rob

rawyatt@aludra.usc.edu
Re: New Keyboard, ADB, NeXT, and the run-around
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Author: Ricardo Parada
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 14:52
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In article <1cmqhrINN25g@koh-sun3.usc.edu> rawyatt@koh-sun3.usc.edu  
(Robert Alexander Wyatt) writes:
> 
> Can anybody out there set me straight on the availability of an upgrade  
path for
> the new keyboard/mouse...I have a Station Color Turbo and read in  
NeXTWORLD that
> Color Turbo owners would be able to upgrade...then the ordeal began...I  
have

[stuff deleted to keep within context]

In your case I "think" you only need the new sound box and keyboard.  Some  
computers need also an EPROM that needs to be replaced.  In some computers  
like the original monochrome NeXTstations you need the EPROM, new monitor  
that has is ADB compatible.  The conector from the Megapixel Display to  
the computer has NOT changed only the interface from the keyboard to the  
monitor or in the case of the NeXTstation color the interface from the  
keyboard to the sound box which is now ADB.  That's why in the color  
NeXTstations you need to replace only the sound box and not the megapixel  
display.

There are rumors because of the article in NeXTWORLD Magazine (I guess)  
that the motherboard had to be replaced but it's only the EPROM the one  
that has to be replaced and you may not even need it if you already have  
the new one.  The "new" ADB Monochrome Megapixel display is suppossed to  
be available some time "NeXT year".

WARNING: We have not done any upgrades here yet, so I have not confirmed  
that all this is true.

--
Ricardo J. Parada
Pencom Software
ricardo@pencom.com
Re: New Keyboard, ADB, NeXT, and the run-around
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Author: nevin
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 16:42
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In article <1cmqhrINN25g@koh-sun3.usc.edu> rawyatt@koh-sun3.usc.edu (Robert  
Alexander Wyatt) writes:
> 
> Can anybody out there set me straight on the availability of an upgrade path
> for the new keyboard/mouse...I have a Station Color Turbo and read in
> NeXTWORLD that Color Turbo owners would be able to upgrade...then the ordeal
> began...I have spoken with four different people at NeXT, each of whom has
> told me something different...one said no upgrade policy...the second said
> - sure, get a new soundbox and startingpoint kit...the third said no
> way...and the fourth told me I would need a new motherboard, soundbox,
> startingpoint kit, and monitor...but he

OK!

NeXT recently mailed the following message to their Consultants mailing list.
I'm sure many people received it, and if it gets posted more than once, I 
apologize.

It details what's required for the ADB upgrade--and it came from NeXT!
And, after reading it, I can understand NeXT's reluctance to go full
steam ahead at upgrading old systems.



Begin forwarded message:

Hi All:

I have gotten a number of questions about upgrading an older NeXTstation Turbo  
or NeXTstation Turbo Color systems shipped with software release 2.2 with the  
new hardware (ADB monitor, ADB Sound box or ADB keyboard).

To run ADB hardware on an Older Turbo system the customer must:
	Upgrade the EPROM to version 74 or better.
	Upgrade the operating system to 3.0
	Replace the CPU to monitor cable.

	MONO system
		Replace the monitor to an N4000B
	Color system
		Replace the monitor to an N4005A or N4006.  
			(the majority of the N4001 will have a video
				problem with ADB)
		Replace the sound box to an N4004A
	Now you can plug in an ADB keyboard and ADB mouse.

--
Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
NeXTmail preferred, but ONLY at my REAL email address: nevin@dtint.dtint.com

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Re: New Keyboard, ADB, NeXT, and the run-around
#71
Author: L. Anathea Brooks
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 22:19
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I'm assuming that Next WILL provide new EPROMS to all who want,
eventually, to buy a new Megapixel with ADB interface and new 
cable, based on the info they sent. Is this a correct assumption?
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