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Article #4248Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
From: Christopher Songer
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:01
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:01
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In article <1g7sq8INNggf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> ovrskeek@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (I am the OVER-skeek!) writes: >lschultz@pdx255 (Leonard Schultz) writes: > > >The P5 (I hope this name sticks, pentium sucks!) may be superscalar, >but it is not available yet, now is it? How many more transistors does >it need to match the performance of a MIPS r4000? Which is already available! >IF the P5 makes its (claimed) performance figures, it wouldn't be in the >running for fastest chip if it was released tommorow! > Still, Intel drives volumes high enough that while their chips may not be the fastest per transistor, they are often the fastest per dollar. Economy of Scale is very important here. (Hence the reason NeXT didn't go with the 88k.) Next is not in the super fast workstation market -- they are in the desktop market. They need a processor base that has a reasonable tradeoff between speed and price. Motorola cannot not even keep up with Intel in terms of chip speeds and Intel lags the Riscs by about a year. Next could adopt a "low volume" high performance Risc architecture, but they would have to abandon the low end of the market. The Pentium will sell well and run far faster than the current 68040 based machines. It will be out probably a year before the 68060 and Next has already done a significant amount of porting work to the family. The 80486 is already out and running at higher speeds than the 68040. The silicon is probably cheaper. The 80x86 dominates the applications markets. It will have a huge market for the next decade at least. There is too much development invested in it for it to go away overnight. If Next stays with Moto's 68K they will perform like a dog for the next year and a half. If they go to a Risc like the R4000 or the 88K they are commiting to paying premium prices for their processors and doing a port to an architecture that does not have an installed base to insure its survival. Their choices seem quite limited and the Intel line seems the best. It is ready soon, the work for a "complete" port has been going on for some time, it is going to be cheap and there will be a "next chip" in the family. Anyway, -Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ornl!utkcs2!emory!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!agate!netsys!ukma!lexmark!songer From: songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT. Message-ID: <1992Dec11.180118.105908@lexmark.com> X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude) Nntp-Posting-Host: 9.51.7.57 Organization: Lexington, KY References: <1992Dec8.205422.746@qb.rhein-main.de> <1992Dec10.090411.12142@ichips.intel.com> <1g7sq8INNggf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:01:18 GMT Lines: 41