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Re: Page layout revisited

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From: Andrew Loewenstern
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 08:08
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In article <1992Oct27.210520.996@news.media.mit.edu> wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>Anwar Mohammed writes
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I do some volunteer work publishing newsletters.  I may also be
>> designing some brochures soon. Using Framemaker for these 
>> purposes is painful. I've used Pagemaker on Macs, to date.
>> The latest NeXTWorld had good reviews of the various software 
>> packages.
>> 
>> PasteUp sounds ideal, but their academic pricing scheme is priced 
>> way out of my price range.  The combined academic pricing of 
>> executor (which I'll be buying anyway) and either Pagemaker 
>> or QuarkXpress is lower.
>
>Academic pricing?  What academic pricing?  I'm a big fan of buying software,  
>and own real copies bought with my own money of Create, Frame, Microphone, 
>Simon Says, Diagram!, Concurrence, Virtuoso, and a few other packages.  I was 
>all set to plunk down some cash for PasteUp until I found out that they have NO  
>academic pricing.  Come on guys, get real.  Better to sell a couple hundred (or
>a couple thousand) academic copies at $100 to $200, than none at all.  As it
>is I'll use Frame until Pages comes out...

Pages != PasteUp

Pages is a page-layout application for entities (companies or
institutions) that need/want a consistant look throughout all their
documents.  Rather than spending time teaching each person which
styles to use where and hoping they use them right, one person creates
a "Design Module" which defines what documents look like, and the
software limits what the user can do according to the design module.
It's really killer stuff, but it's not the same as PasteUp (which is
free-form down and dirty page-layout).  Both are great pieces of
software, but neither is a replacement for the other.  I think Pages
(Pages plus the Designer Edition) will be more expensive than PasteUp
too.

Also, Archetype is a long ways away from release (I talked to someone
from Archetype last Wednesday who said it would be about a year) since
they are trying to create something a bit more obtuse than PasteUp.

In any event, if you want at discount on PasteUp, call NeXTconnection.
Deep discounts for students is not a right.  Many companies just can't
afford it.  PasteUp is a really neat app, but it's a page-layout app.
While PasteUp is easier to use than any other page-layout app I've
seen on Macintosh that has similar capabilities, it's still a
page-layout app.  Support is really expensive for page-layout apps.
Just go down to your local bookstore and count the number of PageMaker
books.

So put yourself in the software company's shoes (in this case a rather
small one) before you scream to the net.


andrew
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
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Subject: Re: Page layout revisited
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