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5 total messages Started by Shelley Louie Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:16
Old old Cube needs an upgrade...
#4185
Author: Shelley Louie
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:16
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We've got an old, old '20 cube running (cough) NS 1.0 and want to upgrade it
a bit. The problem is that I called up the people at NeXT and they told me
that I can do one of two things;

1: Upgrade to the new turbo 33MHz '40 board, add a new CD-ROM (the optical
   won't work with NS 3.0), an internal floppy, and some memory. That'll let
   us use NS 3.0.

Or...

2: Upgrade to the new turbo 33MHz '40 board and get NS 2.2. The optical will 
   still work and the price is definately lower.

The questions I have is "what do you think about these two setups?" and 
"is there a better solution?" I've got a limited budget so the price does
make a difference (ie. the cheaper the solution the better), but I can always
push for more funds.

I'd prefer it if you could email your responses, but post if you feel you must.
If there is an outcry (yeah, right), I'll post the collected answers. 

Thanks a ton!

-Shelley Louie
slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu -or- shelley@lurnix.com
Digital is illusion. Life is analog.
Re: Old old Cube needs an upgrade...
#4190
Author: David Leon
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:21
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In article <1hs0e4INNiu5@agate.berkeley.edu> slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Shelley Louie) writes:
>We've got an old, old '20 cube running (cough) NS 1.0 and want to upgrade it
>a bit. The problem is that I called up the people at NeXT and they told me
>that I can do one of two things;
>

Do you mean '030?  I wasn't aware of an '020 board!


>1: Upgrade to the new turbo 33MHz '40 board, add a new CD-ROM (the optical
>   won't work with NS 3.0), an internal floppy, and some memory. That'll let
>   us use NS 3.0.
>

Actually, 3.0 will work with your '030, but not very well (it is optimized
for '040s).  3.0 does support the optical drive, BUT the 33Mhz board doesn't.
The CDROM is a good thing to have, as is a floppy.  One can NEVER have too
much memory, regardless of the OS/CPU.

>Or...
>
>2: Upgrade to the new turbo 33MHz '40 board and get NS 2.2. The optical will 
>   still work and the price is definately lower.
>

This is incorrect information.  The 33Mhz board DOES NOT support the OD,
regardless of the OS.  The 33Mhz board lacks the OD connector and support   
chip.  The only way around this is to save your 030 board and send it to
Spherical Solutions and allow it to run as  a slave CPU concurently with
your Turbo board.  This way you can run your OD from the 030 slave while
running your 33Mhz board for other tasks.

>The questions I have is "what do you think about these two setups?" and 
>"is there a better solution?" I've got a limited budget so the price does
>make a difference (ie. the cheaper the solution the better), but I can always
>push for more funds.
>

Personally, I'd send the 030 card to SS and go with solution 1.  You'll want
the CDROM and need a floppy drive anyway.  3.0 offers quite a few advantages
over 2.x (Mac/Novell support and better faxing, etc).  You can always purchase
a cheap CDROM drive through a 3rd party (NEC comes to mind).

>I'd prefer it if you could email your responses, but post if you feel you must.
>If there is an outcry (yeah, right), I'll post the collected answers. 
>

Sorry, I thought others in a similar predicament might benefit form this.
(actually, I was answering this question by question and I just came across
this at the last moment...)

>Thanks a ton!
>

No problem, that is why we are here.


>-Shelley Louie
>slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu -or- shelley@lurnix.com
>Digital is illusion. Life is analog.

David L. Leon
dleon@seas.smu.edu
Re: Old old Cube needs an upgrade...
#4195
Author: Nathan F. Janette
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:58
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In article <1hs0e4INNiu5@agate.berkeley.edu> slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu  
(Shelley Louie) writes:
> We've got an old, old '20 cube running (cough) NS 1.0 and want to 

Oh yeah, well I've got an old '00 cube running NS -0.3 and.... ;-)

--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Re: Old old Cube needs an upgrade...
#4196
Author: Waihon Andrew Kwong
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:07
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In article <1992Dec31.045822.3793@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <1hs0e4INNiu5@agate.berkeley.edu> slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu  
>(Shelley Louie) writes:
>> We've got an old, old '20 cube running (cough) NS 1.0 and want to 
>
>Oh yeah, well I've got an old '00 cube running NS -0.3 and.... ;-)

Hey, be nice!! Every smart person knows that is a typo, isn't it?!

Andy

>
>--
>Nathan Janette
>PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
>
>Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
>
Re: Old old Cube needs an upgrade...
#4211
Author: Tom Marchioro
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:40
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In <1992Dec31.050748.4215@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@kalman.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) writes:

>In article <1992Dec31.045822.3793@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>>In article <1hs0e4INNiu5@agate.berkeley.edu> slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu  
>>(Shelley Louie) writes:
>>> We've got an old, old '20 cube running (cough) NS 1.0 and want to 
>>
>>Oh yeah, well I've got an old '00 cube running NS -0.3 and.... ;-)

>Hey, be nice!! Every smart person knows that is a typo, isn't it?!


Yes, Shellie says it's a typo, though the "old, old" had me wondering for
a while if there might not have been an 020 back before I knew NeXT 
even existed.  

Based on his posting history Nathan is indeed a nice guy, perhaps he just
needed a big (48 point) RTF ;-)  ?


Tom
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