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4 total messages Started by Kohichi R Tamura Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:45
Can someone help me with this bootup problem?
#4484
Author: Kohichi R Tamura
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:45
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I just received my 3.0 upgrade.  It was booting fine off the external hard
drive, but I took it back in because the place that did it for me didn't 
include NeXTCD and everything in it.  After he put that on, I took it home 
and tried to boot up and now it seems to hang at the point "Checking System 
Files".  It just sits there and I can't see any exchange (flashing light) 
with the external drive. I thought maybe it was just going to take a while 
but it stayed that way for over 10 minutes.

Does anyone know what happened?  Did something get overwritten on the hard
drive?  It still has 35MB left free, so I sort of doubt it.  Did the guy at
the store have to do something bizzare to get access to my drive?  The SCSI
address is set to 0 now so that's not the problem .......  I would go talk
to the store about it, but this is the 5th time I've been back there this
week to try to get this miserable computer working.

BTW, I have had the worst service imaginable in my purchase of a NeXT
Turbo Station.  It's almost to the point now that I wish I had gone with
a less powerful Mac or PC because all of the hassle I've had to go through
to get the most basic things set up ..... has anyone else out there 
experienced this sort of thing?  

Thank you for any help/comments.

K. Tamura
Re: Can someone help me with this bootup problem?
#4506
Author: Adam Fedor
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:29
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In article <1992Dec18.174527.27414@athena.mit.edu> krtamura@athena.mit.edu  
(Kohichi R Tamura) writes:
> I just received my 3.0 upgrade.  It was booting fine off the external  
hard
> drive, but I took it back in because the place that did it for me didn't 
> include NeXTCD and everything in it.  After he put that on, I took it  
home 
> and tried to boot up and now it seems to hang at the point "Checking  
System 
> Files".  It just sits there and I can't see any exchange (flashing  
light) 
[...stuff deleted]
> 
> K. Tamura

Major Uh-oh...

You did't have him put the directory called /NextCD on your disk did you?

In the recent issue of NeXTwatch (nextwatch@skylee.com), p. 3, they say  
that you should NOT, EVER EVER EVER EVER create a directory on your hard  
disk called /NextCD because the /etc/rc.boot file will think the hard disk  
is a CD-ROM and mount it read-only.  As of late, there is no easy way to  
fix this problem.  (I didn't quote the article exactly because I'm  
paranoid of copyright laws :-))

Sorry you've had so much troubles.
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Adam Fedor, CU boulder                    | 
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fedor@boulder.colorado.edu (Work)         |
Re: Can someone help me with this bootup problem?
#4513
Author: Paul Lynch
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:19
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In article <1992Dec18.174527.27414@athena.mit.edu> krtamura@athena.mit.edu  
(Kohichi R Tamura) writes:
> I just received my 3.0 upgrade.  It was booting fine off the external  
hard
> drive, but I took it back in because the place that did it for me didn't 
> include NeXTCD and everything in it.  After he put that on, I took it  
home 
> and tried to boot up and now it seems to hang at the point "Checking  
System 
> Files".  It just sits there and I can't see any exchange (flashing  
light) 
> with the external drive. I thought maybe it was just going to take a  
while 
> but it stayed that way for over 10 minutes.
> 

It is almost certainly doing an fsck; the way to verify this is to force a  
verbose boot (interrupt duing 'Testing System' with RightCommand-~ and  
type bsd), and watch the messages.

If so, 10 minutes might well not be long enough.

Paul
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Paul Lynch
P & L Systems                   (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501                      paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                       76711.451@compuserve.com
Re: Can someone help me with this bootup problem?
#4517
Author: Mike Matthews
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:40
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In article <1992Dec19.042928.4991@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> adam@bastille.rmnug.org writes:
>Major Uh-oh...

>You did't have him put the directory called /NextCD on your disk did you?

Well, you *can* put a /NextCD directory on your disk, *provided you change
/etc/rc.boot as well*.  This obviously won't work if you boot off the CD, but
if you boot off the CD this doesn't apply anyway.

It's only a bad idea to change the /etc/rc* files other than rc.local if you
don't know what it is you're doing and the full ramifications thereof.

Since the existance of /NextCD is checked only once near the beginning of
/etc/rc.boot, changing that directory on your hard drive won't hurt (heck,
even taking out the check on your hard drive won't hurt as it's definitely
not going to be booting from CD ROM).

Of course, one should realize they're fiddling with a standard.  There should
be a better way to determine if you're booting from a CD ROM or not than
looking for a directory; something like a disk -s /dev/rsd0a | grep removable
check or something.

>Adam Fedor, CU boulder                    | 
>adam@bastille.rmnug.org (Home, NextMail)  |  quick .sig hack...
>fedor@boulder.colorado.edu (Work)         |
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