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Article #1228Re: Praise and gripes about 3.0
From: Zenon Fortuna
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 22:05
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 22:05
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In article <1992Oct1.165220.25206@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes: >In article <1992Sep28.151059.8225@resonex.com> zenon@resonex.com (Zenon >Fortuna) writes: >> In article <1992Sep28.142202.28576@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com >(Jim De Arras) writes: >> >In article <5181@rosie.NeXT.COM> Brian_Pinkerton@next.com (Brian Pinkerton) >> >writes: >> >> In article <1992Sep24.140404.22842@cube.handheld.com> >> >> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes: >> >> > I was not able to attend the dev conf. Does this mean we must have >> >> > and believe 'inside' info, from one slide, over the public >> >> > announcements? Given that, how can we beleive anything NeXT says? >> >> > It's all "marketing hype" in the end! >> >> >> >> If I were you, I'd believe an engineer's inside info 10 times more often >> >> than I believed any marketing info. This goes for any company, not just >> >> NeXT. The nice thing about NeXT is that the marketing line is a lot >> >> closer to the truth than at other large computer companies. >> >> >> >Well, thank you for admitting your marketing dept lies. >> >standard practice does not forgive it. >> >> Sorry to protest, but from the statement "...is a lot closer to the truth..." >> you cannot conclude that the person is lying. :) >> >> -Z. > >Per my old-fashioned upbringing, in the (early) fifties, there is truth and >!truth. !Truth == lie. The statement "...is a lot closer to the truth..." >implies the position not the truth, and hence a lie. I know that is out of >sync with the nineties, where truth is more a matter of perception than an >absolute, but I'm too old to change. > >Jim Well, in your terminology "you are lying", because I am sure you are not too old to change. :) I wanted to point out, that the person *can be far from the truth* only because he/she does not know the truth. "lying" implies "cheating", isn't it (or I am *lying* now) ? -Z.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!decwrl!netcomsv!resonex!zenon From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) Subject: Re: Praise and gripes about 3.0 Message-ID: <1992Oct1.220542.14650@resonex.com> Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA References: <1992Sep28.151059.8225@resonex.com> <1992Oct1.165220.25206@cube.handheld.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:05:42 GMT Lines: 42