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Re: Dream OS = Linux

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From: Olaf Seibert
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:05
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In <40p3tc$a79@student.anu.edu.au> Jason Stokes <J.STOKES@student.anu.edu.au> writes:

>cs94367@cs.ualberta.ca (Jon Martin) wrote:
>
>>
>>     No denying that UNIX and friends have a steep learning curve.  Once you do
>>learn how to use it, you will never turn back.  When I started using UNIX 
>>systems about a year ago I hated it.  Why couldn't we use DOS at school, whine,
>>whine...  Then after I invested some time in learning about how the system works
>>I found I hated the limitations and inflexibility of DOS.  Give Linux a chance.
>>It is well worth it.

I took the liberty of reformatting your too-long lines.

>UNIX, and I assume its counterpart LINUX, just totally fails to hide OS
>details from the user.  It seems I have to learn a whole new language
>(can anyone explain EMACSese, for example?) just to operate it.  What

EMACS is a bad example. It's an application, not part of the operating
system. There are also EMACS versions for OS/2 and, I presume,
messydos.

>it needs is a really good OOUI/GUI that gives drag'n'drop
>functionality.  I've seen its windowing system, X-windows, and I don't
>think much of it.

It isn't called "X-windows". It is called "X". The only time it is
proper to speak of "X windows" is when somebody asks you "*which*
windows are you using?", using "X" as an adjective.

>Using a computer is going to be as basic a skill as literacy, if it
>isn't already, and that means people aren't going to be able to cope if
>they have to conform to some computer scientist's idea of a handy
>mnemonic command.  GREP?

g/RE/p. Simple comme bonjour. An often used command in the editor (ed,
in the olden days). RE = regular expression, g is the command that
finds all lines matching the RE and applies the command that follows
to them. P = print.

>My ideal OS would assume very little knowledge for the user get started
>(so kids can use it) but would allow progressively more detailed and
>lower level manipulation for the technically minded.  It would also
>have sound technical foundations incorporating all the latest OS
>technology, with a large capacity for expansion.  The closest thing to
>this ideal is, of course,

NetBSD (sorry, somebody had to mention it between all those people who
think that Linux is the only or best free Unix around).

-Olaf.
--
___              Copyright 1995 Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert. All Rights Reserved.
\X/    You are not allowed to read this using any kind of Micro$oft product.

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From: rhialto@mbfys.kun.nl (Olaf Seibert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,alt.2600
Subject: Re: Dream OS = Linux
Date: 16 Aug 1995 13:05:20 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
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