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Article #3437

Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???

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From: David T. Wang
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:34
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Joe Ragosta (jragosta@dca.net) wrote:
: In article <4isjnf$8ts@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, "Jason D. Malone"
: <jdmalone@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote:

: > First---I question this....Secondly, there's no way in hell
: > that a PPC can remotely compare to the Pentium....look
: > at the SPEC numbers, you will se.....BTW the upcoming
: > 620 is expected to get a 4 (MUA HAHAH)

: So, you question it. Who cares?

: On Byte Benchmarks, PPC beats Pentium.

right.

: On HINT Benchmarks, PPC beats Pentium.

Joe, still claiming this? I still get confused looking at the HINT page,
you're ofcourse comparing the 3.47 of the 132 MHz 9500 to the 120 Mhz
Pentium?  I hope you're not still doing the 604 beats the P6 thing.

: On Windows NT running commercial applications, PPC beats Pentium.

now you're really smoking those funny weeds again. must I remind you that
the article you quoted out of Byte didn't compare any X86 NT apps to 
PPC NT apps, or to any P6 box? Byte compared the machines to each other 
and to other RISC boxes. No Pentiums were involved.  The only thing that
Byte used to judge speed were those lovely Bytemarks from number 1 above.
here are the two relevent graphics

http://www.byte.com/art/9511/img/507036e2.htm

and

http://www.byte.com/art/9511/img/507036c2.htm

no such "application" benchmark exist, except for IBM's report that
"32 bit Excel ran slow on PPC's, probably because MS optimized for X86
binaries"

: On your beloved SPEC, Pentium beats PPC.

right.

: Even on applications software tests using MacOS vs. Windows (which
: introduces many sources of errror), PPC is always in the same ballpark as
: Intel, and often better (if you're not using Microsoft apps, PPC is
: _usually_ better than Pentium).

: To say "there's no way in hell that a PPC can remotely compare to the
: Pentium" clearly shows that you have no interest in the truth or verifying
: facts. You're just trolling.

He was trolling, performance for each familiy is roughly equivalent on a 
per transistor-MHz comparison.  But ofcourse that means that it's unlikely
to achieve the 2X the performance goal by virtue of a new ISA. 

: -- 
: Regards,       Joe Ragosta

: Copyright Joseph M. Ragosta, 1996. Non-exclusive, royalty free
: license to distribute this post granted to any service provider 
: except Microsoft. By posting this, Microsoft agrees to pay $1,000 per 
: posting.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
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