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Nevin ":-]" Liber (nevin@CS.Arizona.EDU) wrote:
: In article <3v4phk$pe8@park.uvsc.edu>, Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> wrote:

: > ] Or /tmp fills up (especially if the reason is due to "invisible" files;
: > ] files that are open but have had their directory entry unlinked).

: > As opposed to some sppol directory filling up with visible files?

: At least I have a chance to figure out the problem if the files are
: visible and there when I reboot.  Also, my Mac is still useable even if
: the whole filesystem is full; the Unix box is not.  How do you go about
: finding the problem causing this on your Unix system, to keep it from
: happening again?

Hire a competent systems administrator?

: > There are standard administrative utilities for determining open
: > temporary files.  That particular use of the file system is rather
: > atypical, in any case, since it's intended to be used for files
: > that are, in fact, temporary in nature.

: But temporary means, in a lot of situations, for the duration of the
: running of a program.  And those files can get quite large.

put in more tmp space.....

: > Think of it as spending the money that you
: > would have spent on virus detection software for your PC or Mac.

: Disinfectant is free for the Mac (thanks, John Norstad!).

so are most unix utilities

: > Hey, if you use up all your disk space, Mac and Windows compilers
: > fail to operate too.

: But on Unix, all of a sudden all my *shells* are inoperable.

well, there's something wrong with your box then, because my statically 
linked bash shell never fails....


: > From running too many programs simultaneously?  Running out of
: > swap is better than running out of RAM.

: My Mac always warns me when free RAM (even virtual) is getting low.  When
: Unix runs out, oh well, time to reboot.  What you were doing couldn't have
: been all that important, anyway.

nope.....if you bother paying attention to the logs, you'll see out of 
memory errors

: >Swap is at ~ 30 cents
: > a Meg.  What do you pay for RAM?

: I turn VM on my Mac also.  Same price that you pay for VM.

: > Like when the cat chews through the wire, bursts into flames,
: > and burns the computer room down?

: Stale NFS handles due to some other Unix box being rebooted.  Heck, I
: managed to bring down a whole corporate network for a weekend because of
: this.

perhaps you should look into using an automounter instead?

: > It does not.  You did it wrong.  You need to look at the man
: > pages for "crash" and "kadb" and probably your system tuning
: > manual.

: Every week that I spend having to tune my Unix box, is a week of real work lost.

well, thats what systems administrators are for.  If its such a pain, why 
are you still using unix?

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