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Re: Apple? (subject change)

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From: Joe Sloan
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 19:00
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In article <nevin-0908950529590001@mac-nevin.cs.arizona.edu>,
Nevin ":-]" Liber <nevin@CS.Arizona.EDU> wrote:

>Re-implementing a two decade old operating system that other people have
>been reimplementing over and over and over really doesn't impress me. 
>Copying something that you have a 20 years worth of models to look at is
>far, far easier than trying to implement something new and unproven.

Doesn't it seem strange that a poor cs student's implementation a 
"2 decade old" operating system has yielded something every bit as 
powerful as the flagship product of one of the wealthiest corporations 
in the world?

And speaking of copying, what do you think microsoft has been doing?
You essentially could have had win95 10 years ago if you had just 
bought a mac - so why are all the trade rags in such an ecstatic
orgy over win95?

>And there is lots of freeware and shareware for every major computing
>platform out there.  Again, not all that impressive.  Plus, for both Macs
>and PCs, there is a whole bunch more software to choose from (the
>commercial sector).

That's a bogus line of reasoning; you didn't think it through, did you?

The free dos utilities are nowhere near the quality of those available
in the UNIX world...

With Unix, you get X11R6, Sendmail, tcp/ip & xv.
With dos or windoze, you get a shareware label maker program...

>First off, Linux is written by people who care about what a *Unix* system
>should be.  You can do far, far better from an operating system point of
>view if you don't constrain yourself to staying compatible with Unix.

Oh, but staying compatible with dos is OK, right?

Unix is the *least* constrainting environment known to man!

>My Unix environment hasn't fundamentally improved (or heck, even changed
>in terms of user experience) in the last 5 years. 
You've been out of touch then - 5 years ago, there was no such thing
as Linux, X11R6, fvwm, xfm, doom or netscape...

But you no doubt don't want to hear that, and are merely enjoying your
role as devil's advocate...

--
 Joe Sloan     jjs@engr.ucr.edu   http://dostoevsky.ucr.edu
     Win95? No, none for me, thanks - I'm already running Linux...
 Microsoft is not the answer - Microsoft is the question; the answer is NO!
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Subject: Re: Apple? (subject change)
Date: 9 Aug 1995 19:00:13 GMT
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