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Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???

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From: Joe Ragosta
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:42
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In article <DD44IH.4AK@news.cis.umn.edu>, Jeff Halverson
<halv0019@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote:

> I agree with this.  Macs have gotten a lot cheaper, and a lot more
competitive with the PC market.  Part of the reason for this is t=
> he new Mac Clones being built.  But you have to realize that you have
just compared Macintosh prices with IBM/Compaq/HP & NEC.  Thes=
> e companies always sell less-compatible computers for higher prices. 
Basically you are paying the extra price for customer support.=
>   Lets compare a system from a third party vendor (not one of the big
5), to either a CloneMac or a true Mac.  --The prices are clos=
> e, but you will still get a comperable (apples and oranges, I know.) PC
for cheaper.  And upgradability if more flexible in the curr=
> ent PC.  (I know that this too is changing with the coming PCI-bus PowerMacs.

You missed point of my message. 

1. The largest PC sellers are those which offer support and have prices
close to or higher than Apple. (Of the top 5 PC vendors, only one is a
"cheap" vendor-Packard Bell). Since Apple wants market share, why not
target the 5 most successful companies rather than the cheapie cloners?

2. Therefore, the argument that Macs are more expensive than Wintel boxes
is bogus. Macs are competitive with the premium name brand vendors they
choose to compete against (who account for half the PC business).

3. Look at the PowerMac 6100. You can buy a 60 MHz for $1100 w/o monitor
and a 66 with CD for $1400. Imagine IBM, Compaq, NEC, or Hewlet Packard
offering a 75 MHz Pentium for these prices.

> 
> --Now, Where I have a problem is more with the underlying philosophy of
those who support the different OS's.  ((Here I'm talking OS=
> , _NOT_ hardware))  Look at the amount of freeware available for all the
different platforms.  I have downloaded _WAY_ more less-tha=
> n-impressive cripple-ware for Macintosh that charge higher "shareware"
fees that I have seen for any other platform.  Software price=
> s in general are higher for Macintosh than for DOS/Windows  (OS2 also
has quite high prices)
> Hopefully with Caldera leading the pack, things like WP6.0 will be in
line with Windows prices and not Macintosh prices.  

That's not my experience. You're buying software in the wrong places. In
almost every mail order catalog I've ever seen which offers both (i.e. PC
Warehouse/Mac Warehouse), the Mac and PC software is comparable in price.

-- 
Regards, Joe Ragosta -- 100% Chemical and proud of it.
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Subject: Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
Date: 11 Aug 1995 12:42:59 GMT
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