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Started by Craig Koller
Wed, 06 Sep 1995 18:19
Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Craig Koller
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 18:19
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 18:19
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Jason Newquist (newquist@maxwell.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: For certain applications, yeah, Apple creams. But until Copland,
: system-level performance is going to be a patchwork. That's not bad --
: Win95 is far worse a patchwork then Apple could ever purposefully design
: -- it's just not the decisive advantage Apple needs to toss happily in
: the face of win bigots.
MS can never fully shake the ghost of DOS with Win'9X, so they're
maneuvering users over to NT. When NT has '95 features, and users are
used to ponying up 16 megs of RAM, then the challenge will be real for
Apple, if Copland isn't out. All real Win'95 Apps have to run in NT and
NT is starting gain steam as a pro 3D developers environment. It could
conceivably win over other graphics categories if Apple gets lazy.
: As is generally agreed, System 7 is far far behind Apple's hardware.
: It's Apple's #1 priority to fix that.
: See, it's all software.
Agreed.
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ckoller@netcom.com
Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Joel Sartoris
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 19:56
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 19:56
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> Jason Newquist (newquist@maxwell.ucdavis.edu) wrote: > For certain applications, yeah, Apple creams. But until Copland, > system-level performance is going to be a patchwork. That's not bad > Win95 is far worse a patchwork then Apple could ever purposefully >design > -- it's just not the decisive advantage Apple needs to toss happily >in the face of win bigots. With all the system crashes experienced with the current test version of Copland, you may be a bit disappointed with the initial release, as are many PC users with the initial release of Win95. Of course by the time Copland is released, Win96 will probably be ready :) . --Joel Sartoris
Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Jason Newquist
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 22:35
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 22:35
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Joel Sartoris (jsart@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > With all the system crashes experienced with the current test version > of Copland, you may be a bit disappointed with the initial release, as > are many PC users with the initial release of Win95. Of course by the > time Copland is released, Win96 will probably be ready :) . Whoa, it's over a year until final release. How can you say that the final droduct can be judge by a pre-alpha build? -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jason Newquist http://maxwell.ucdavis.edu/~newquist/ newquist@maxwell.ucdavis.edu eWorld - newquist@eworld.com
Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Philip Machanick
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 13:50
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 13:50
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In article <42kudt$409@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, jsart@ix.netcom.com (Joel Sartoris) wrote: > With all the system crashes experienced with the current test version > of Copland, you may be a bit disappointed with the initial release, as > are many PC users with the initial release of Win95. Of course by the > time Copland is released, Win96 will probably be ready :) . I'm not aware that Copland is even in Beta yet -- where did you get a test version. I'm willing to bet the MS won't use a year in a product name again in a hurry. -- Philip Machanick Department of Computer Science University of the Witwatersrand, 2050 Wits, South Africa phone 27(11)716-3309 fax 27(11)339-7965 http://www.cs.wits.ac.za/~philip/ philip@cs.wits.ac.za
Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Lawson English
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 16:36
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 16:36
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Joel Sartoris (jsart@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: >
: Jason Newquist (newquist@maxwell.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: > For certain applications, yeah, Apple creams. But until Copland,
: > system-level performance is going to be a patchwork. That's not bad
: > Win95 is far worse a patchwork then Apple could ever purposefully
: >design
: > -- it's just not the decisive advantage Apple needs to toss happily
: >in the face of win bigots.
: With all the system crashes experienced with the current test version
: of Copland, you may be a bit disappointed with the initial release, as
: are many PC users with the initial release of Win95. Of course by the
: time Copland is released, Win96 will probably be ready :) .
Now who do you know that has a real version of Copland?
The trollock that was asking questions about it on
comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc?
I don't think so, and if he *did* have a version, it was so
pre-general-beta that it's amazing that it didn't eat his computer,
harddrive and modem for breakfast...
I don't know for certain, but I'd guess that Copland isn't even being
distributed outside Apple yet.
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Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Joel Sartoris
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 18:17
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 18:17
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In <42n738$n7b@nnrp1.primenet.com> english@primenet.com (Lawson English) writes: > > >Now who do you know that has a real version of Copland? Read last Sunday's S.J. Mercury-News. I did say test version. >The trollock that was asking questions about it on >comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc? > >I don't know for certain, but I'd guess that Copland isn't even being >distributed outside Apple yet. > Perhaps not, but it was demonstrated to the Mercury writer. Crashed often. --Joel
Re: Debate: PowerMac
Author: Marc Nimchuk
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 05:16
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 05:16
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Joel Sartoris (jsart@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : In <42n738$n7b@nnrp1.primenet.com> english@primenet.com (Lawson : English) writes: : > : > : >Now who do you know that has a real version of Copland? : Read last Sunday's S.J. Mercury-News. I did say test version. : >The trollock that was asking questions about it on : >comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc? : > : >I don't know for certain, but I'd guess that Copland isn't even being : >distributed outside Apple yet. : > : Perhaps not, but it was demonstrated to the Mercury writer. Crashed : often. : --Joel Alpha software tends to do that on any platform...
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