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4 total messages Started by Chad Irby Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:32
Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
#2866
Author: Chad Irby
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:32
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Dave Glue (daveacg@interlog.com) wrote:
: 
: Who said there would be 40 million?  The most optimistic was
: Dataquest, who stated 30 million _shipped_, 20 million _sold_. 

Nope- they said 30 million _sold_.  Even the most pessimistic 
prediction from the "experts" was on the order of 16 million.  Hell, even 
Sangria was more optimistic than to predict 7 million...

: The 7 million figure is about two months worth of sales- not 1995.

Nope.  The 7 million was for August-December.  Actually, they sold more 
like 10 million, but three million were returned.  And not everyone  
believes that all of those 7 million were actually kept in use.  I know
that most of the companies I've dealt with that have bought new  
computers format the hard drive first and install Windows 3.1 instead  of 
W95...

: They were all sell-throughs.

Nope.  About four million of the 7 million were preloads.  So only about 
three million people actually *bought* Windows 95...

-- 

Chad Irby           /    My greatest fear: that future generations will,
cirby@gate.net     /      for some reason, refer to me as an "optimist."
Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
#2870
Author: Mike Schmit
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 23:05
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In <4dj8am$chfa@navajo.gate.net> cirby@gate.net (Chad Irby) writes: 

>Nope.  The 7 million was for August-December.  Actually, they sold
more 
>like 10 million, but three million were returned.  And not everyone  
>believes that all of those 7 million were actually kept in use.  I
know
>that most of the companies I've dealt with that have bought new  
>computers format the hard drive first and install Windows 3.1 instead 
of 
>
>Nope.  About four million of the 7 million were preloads.  So only
about 
>three million people actually *bought* Windows 95...

The Wall St journal reported 7 million sold in the 3rd quarter (OEM and
retail upgrades) for August-September and a total (approx) of 17 - 19
million by the end of the year, with no break out for OEM/retail. Most
analysts guestimates before the launch were in the 20 - 30 million
range,
with Dataquest at the high end (30M). The article also said that at
about
18M units in 4.5 months it is the best selling software package ever in
that amount of time.

True, Win95 did not do as well as some projected, hoped or wanted it
to.
It is still a bigger hit than Win 3.0 or Win 3.1 were in the same
amount
of time and in percent of market gained. Two years after Win 3.0 was
launched, DOS applications still outsold Win apps.

Mike Schmit

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Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
#2871
Author: Dave Glue
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:07
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On 17 Jan 1996 11:32:22 -0500, cirby@gate.net (Chad Irby) wrote:

>Dave Glue (daveacg@interlog.com) wrote:
>: 
>: Who said there would be 40 million?  The most optimistic was
>: Dataquest, who stated 30 million _shipped_, 20 million _sold_. 
>
>Nope- they said 30 million _sold_.  Even the most pessimistic 
>prediction from the "experts" was on the order of 16 million.  Hell, even 
>Sangria was more optimistic than to predict 7 million...

Please give me a press release from Dataquest stating sold.  The last
I read, was when they were downgrading their estimates to 16.8 million
or so- from "20 million sold, 30 million shipped".  That was in
Infoworld/PC Week.

>: The 7 million figure is about two months worth of sales- not 1995.
>
>Nope.  The 7 million was for August-December. 

NO, IT WAS NOT.  Microsoft has NOT release sales figures yet.  Where
are you getting this tripe?


>: They were all sell-throughs.
>
>Nope.  About four million of the 7 million were preloads.  So only about 
>three million people actually *bought* Windows 95...

You don't understand the term "sell through", do you?  It means copies
_sold to customers_.  Being shipped on a PC counts, as long as it's
not in the warehouse or factory.
Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
#2892
Author: Christopher C. Wood
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:26
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In article <4dj8am$chfa@navajo.gate.net>, cirby@gate.net (Chad Irby) writes:
|> Dave Glue (daveacg@interlog.com) wrote:
|> : Who said there would be 40 million?  The most optimistic was
|> : Dataquest, who stated 30 million _shipped_, 20 million _sold_. 

|> Nope- they said 30 million _sold_.  Even the most pessimistic
|> prediction from the "experts" was on the order of 16 million.
|> Hell, even Sangria was more optimistic than to predict 7 million...

Even I thought the 16 Million copies was a gimmie, because of
preloads.  Time to polish some of the scratches out of my crystal
ball.

Chris
-- 
Speaking only for myself, of course.
Chris Wood    christw@lexis-nexis.com   ChrisCWood@eworld.com
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