🚀 go-pugleaf

Mark V wrote:
> burris wrote in news:3ED7ADE0.4000204@bellsouth.net:
> 
> 
>>
>>Mark V wrote:
>>
>>> BOB wrote in news:OAIBa.10358$HM1.9756@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tap Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Interesting responses to my vent/"whine".  I don't think I'm a
>>>>>"binary junkie", as my 25+ subscribed newsgroups are text-only
>>>>>and mostly IT-related, and am merely expressing my
>>>>>dissatisfaction at the constant stalls, "too many connections"
>>>>>errors, and general recent slowness of browsing newsgroups.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hal, you may be right about some of the complainers, but in my
>>>>>mind that doesn't excuse poor service.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tap
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Same thing here.  I only use *ONE* binary group, and by most
>>>>standards here, it would be described as abandoned.  MAYBE 5 to
>>>>10 posts a day, and many of the subscribers are still on dial-up
>>>>so we try to keep the .jpgs at around 100Kb or less.
>>>>The other groups are TEXT ONLY and they have the same problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe there is a solution (just in part) lurking in all of
>>>this... I too am TEXT groups only.  If separating the access (by
>>>news server IP) into two points (one Text-Only and another
>>>Binary-only) would help, then why not?
>>
>>Mark....
>>
>>I used to think this as well, but some time ago I corresponded
>>with the infamous Dwight, and for some reason I think he told me
>>that storage space aside, text groups were more difficult than
>>binary. I don't understand it but maybe Hal could jump in and
>>explain.. 
> 
> 
> You believed Dwight? <G>   Actually he did seem credible at the time.  
> 
> In any case there is yet another consideration.  Now (some ISPs) and 
> likely in the future (like it or not) most/all ISPs will implement a 
> download (MBs) cap and charge more for over the limit.  Separating 
> heavy-bandwidth (fee) vs. light bandwidth for USENET might make a 
> difference for all on where the cap line is drawn in the future.  
> Just idle thoughts.  I'm sure nothing significant will come of it.  
> And no customer input will be solicited or considered at all in any 
> eventuality.  Do I sound bitter?
> 
> Hal?
> 
> 
Mark....

We also discussed your proposal...very gently though, as whenever it surfaced, 
the binary people screamed to the heavens.
I think this is a huge political nightmare. The binary users expect to have the 
all you can eat scenario at no extra charge, and I'm not sure this has ever been 
defined, except where there is a download cap involved. Years ago we measured 
our internet activity in minutes, now in terabytes. If you notice, they are 
constantly measuring every byte on their downloads. I would be happy with 
reasonable DSL speed, but with Mil Spec reliability :-)
Of course that would include the fact that the service has to work more than 2-3 
days before the next spate of apologies and thanks for our patience.

burris