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Article #4213Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?
From: Isaac
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:19
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:19
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:55:07 -0700, Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> wrote: > In gnu.misc.discuss, Sami Sihvonen <ss@janiika.com> writes: >> ruhl@4dv.net (Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>) wrote: > >>> It was stated that a Linux system is impossible without the GNU >>> utilities. Having shown that this is false, you change the tack, >>> arguing that all actual usable Linux systems are distributed with GNU >>> utilities. Well, duh. > >> Please do post a screen capture where you compile Linux-kernel >> without any GNU-tools (including GNU GCC, GNU Make etc...). > > He's got a point here, folks. Linux only builds with GCC. It's been > intentionally written that way, and makes extensive use of GCC-only > extensions. > > I don't think his larger point is correct, but Linux the kernel is *not* > usable without GCC without extensive work to remove all of the > GCC-specific code, something that Linus has stated repeatedly that he > thinks would be incredibly dumb and sees no point whatsoever in doing. Is there really any controversy over the name of the kernel? Isn't RMS really applying the term GNU/Linux to the kernel + the rest of the system he envisioned? If so, then I don't think the compiler is really all that relevant. Isaac
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