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Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 05:09
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in comp.unix.admin i read:

>Is there really any controversy over the name of the kernel?  

no, at least not that i've heard of.

>Isn't RMS really applying the term GNU/Linux to the kernel + the rest of
>the system he envisioned?  

no.  he's applying it to a system that someone else envisioned, and which
evolved via the efforts of thousands of others not connected with him in
any way.  the system rms envisioned was designed and has been actively
developed -- it is called hurd.  you will note that you can download hurd
from ftp.gnu.org, but not one single `gnu/linux' distribution (not even
debian).

>If so, then I don't think the compiler is really all that relevant.

i agree.  however, linux is significantly dependent on gcc and glibc, and
somewhat dependent on other gnu projects.  though how anyone can envision
demanding (and worse, assuming) that such dependence entitles them to
insert their label in the name is the surprising thing, especially from
`free software' advocates.  linux is just as dependent on gcc today as it
was in it's infancy, yet there was no attempt to insert the gnu label on
that initial project.  only now that it has gained very wide acceptance --
ibm advertises linux systems during prime-time! -- that it has become
worthwhile for a hijack attempt.  and it is a throughly horrid precedent.
i was aghast when i first heard of it, and still am today.  i'm doing
something about it though, removing as much gnu software as possible from
my systems.  whether my plans beyond that will be effective only time can
tell.

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