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bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) writes:
>ygoland@edison.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (The Jester) writes:
>
>> If this is an
>> effective means of distribution then why use a virus at all? 
>
>The question is incorrect. According to Dr. Cohen's definition, "this"
>- -is- a virus. And, since you are using it to do something you would
>like to be done, it is obviously a benevolent virus. Do you see the
>misunderstanding now? It's all matter of definitions...

Yes.. I understand. And may I say I STRONGLY disagree with Dr.
Cohen's definition. A program in the login script that checks if you
have been updated and then updates you is NOT a virus. The program in
the loader does NOT reproduce itself it reproduces another program
which is itself NOT a virus. (Lets ignore the obvious case where the
loader installs an infected program =) For me the acid test of a virus
is:Can it reproduce itself? Is the login script programing trying to
run around and find other login scripts or executable files to infect?
No. It doesn't infect anyone! 'Damnit Jim, its not alive!'

>> In conclusion, a system that changes in an unpredictable manner,
>> that uses hard to track mechanisms of change, is a security
>> nightmare.
>
>Yup... Ever tried MS Windows?... :-)

After reading this line I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my
chair. AS a matter of fact I have. Thats why I now run on OS/2. What
do you say about a program whose most recent release has as it's main
selling point "we fixed all the bugs in our previous release".  Of
course microsoft doesn't have 'bugs', they have 'features'. =) But I
digress.

>> The Jester-PGP Ver2 upon Request
>Please consider this a request... :-)

Actually I bet you already have it, I have yours. You can finger me
but I'll send it to you anyway just to be annoying. =)

			Yaron (The Jester) Goland
p.s. see mister moderator, I remembered!!! =)
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