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Re: GUIs Considered Harmful

#168
From: Faisal Nameer Jawdat
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:48
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mark@spider.co.uk (Mark Valentine) writes:
> 
> Scrollbars are another GUI feature that seem simply to waste real estate
> most of the time.  Most people I point it out to are pleasantly surprised
> to learn that SHIFT-PGUP does the sensible thing by default in xterm (well,
> half-sensible, I customised it to go a full page).  What's more, no scroll-
> bar I've seen has given me the ease of control that a simple pair of keys
> give me (back about four pages? blam, blam, blam, blam! oops, missed it
> there, blam! gotcha!!).

off topic:
not to mention a blatant NeXT plug:
NeXT scrollbars are the ONLY good implementation of this I have seen -
click somewhere in the scroll space and the bar moves right there (the
bar is also sized proportionally to the visible space / scrollable
space ratio), move the bar by dragging it around, and the workspace
(text, picture, whatever) moves accordingly, smoothly, and at the
correct rate (1:1k mapping, where k is the proportion between the
scrollable distance on the bar and in the scrolled object), and the
buttons at the ends of the scrollbar are in pairs so if you miss and
have to back up, you just move 1/8 inch, not all the way to the other
end of the bar
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From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
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Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
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Date: 9 Sep 92 22:48:05 GMT
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