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Re: GUIs Considered Harmful

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From: John Fieber
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:53
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In article <oefiyZO00VAt5mSIYY@andrew.cmu.edu> fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat) writes:
>NeXT scrollbars are the ONLY good implementation of this I have seen -

Except for one small detail, scrollbars on the Amiga work exactly
like those on the NeXT. (or was that the other way around?)
Difference: clicking in the scrollspace moves the "knob" by the
height (or width) of the knob.  The difference is with the Amiga,
I typically do a click to move a short distance and a drag to
move a long distance.  The NeXT is just the reverse.  Six one,
half a dozen the other I guess.

>click somewhere in the scroll space and the bar moves right there (the
>bar is also sized proportionally to the visible space / scrollable
>space ratio), move the bar by dragging it around, and the workspace

I always took proportional scrollbars for granted until I
recently started working on a Mac.  If you are going to use up
precious screen space with scroll bars, they should at least
convey as much useful information as possible.  In a text editor,
for example, with a proportional scroll bar you can at a quick
glance not only tell where you are in a document, but how big the
document is.  

It really baffles me why other window systems have not adopted
proportional scroll bars.  It is not like they are a new concept
or something---the Amiga has been using them for about 7 years
now.  (And I seriously doubt Commodore would try to sue anybody
else who used them!)

-john


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