🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Thread View: comp.windows.misc
7 messages
7 total messages Started by Peter da Silva Sun, 28 Feb 1988 00:23
Well, I'm impressed.
#844
Author: Peter da Silva
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1988 00:23
12 lines
936 bytes
Well, after following the threads of discussion here for a while longer,
NeWS is looking more and more desirable. How UNIX-dependent is NeWS, and
how tightly can you compile display PostScript. Also, are NeWS or DP very
proprietary? I think the ever-more-baroque growth of System V is showing
just what the problem is with a proprietary standard that doesn't get the
advantage of competing sub- and super-sets.

NeWS looks like a natural for systems with efficient lightweight processes
like the Amiga.
-- 
-- Peter da Silva  `-_-'  ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter
-- Disclaimer: These U aren't mere opinions... these are *values*.
Re: Well, I'm impressed.
#846
Author: manic pop thrill
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 1988 17:44
9 lines
848 bytes
In article <1500@sugar.UUCP> peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) writes:
>Well, after following the threads of discussion here for a while longer,
>NeWS is looking more and more desirable. How UNIX-dependent is NeWS, and
>how tightly can you compile display PostScript. Also, are NeWS or DP very

in answer to your first question, there have been ports of news to the
macintosh running native mac os, the atari st as well as the amiga.

dsc
NeWS on a mac?
#848
Author: Bruce G. Barnett
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1988 22:11
22 lines
1306 bytes
I hear that you can run NeWS on a Mac under the MacOS Finder.

What can you do with NeWS on a Mac besides using it as a NeWS Server
and connecting to another machine?

I mean, can you develop NeWS software on a stand-alone Mac? 

I don't understand how this can be done with an operating system
without true multitasking.

As I see it, the NeWS server is running on a Mac waiting
for a request. But since it is the only process, it must wait for an
event from a serial port or network before it initiates anything.

Maybe you can send commands to the server using psh, but how can you
edit a file or program and test it without using another computer?

Am I missing something? Or is NeWS on the MacOS useless in a
stand-alone environment?
-- 
	Bruce G. Barnett 	<barnett@ge-crd.ARPA> <barnett@steinmetz.UUCP>
				uunet!steinmetz!barnett
Re: NeWS on a mac?
#853
Author: Bob Sutterfield
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 1988 16:24
22 lines
1656 bytes
In article <4000@vdsvax.steinmetz.ge.com> barnett@steinmetz.ge.com (Bruce G. Barnett) writes:
>I mean, can you develop NeWS software on a stand-alone Mac?
>
>I don't understand how this can be done with an operating system
>without true multitasking.

One can develop a certain class of NeWS software on a standalone Mac:
that class of applications that runs in the NeWS server as its own
lightweight PostScript process with any necessary scheduling handled
by the NeWS server.  This is how NeWS "desk accessory" applications
like calcul, puzzle, itemdemo, rotate, spirograph, world, and friends
work.

Note that window systems like X can support none of this class of
applications.  All X applications really, truly do require their own
address spaces on some machine somewhere; whether on the same machine
where the server runs, or on some other host across an inter-process
communication channel of some sort.
-=-
 Bob Sutterfield, Department of Computer and Information Science
 The Ohio State University; 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277
 bob@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!cbosgd!osu-cis!bob
Re: NeWS on a mac?
#860
Author: Bruce G. Barnett
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1988 20:22
15 lines
1270 bytes
In article <7661@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
|One can develop a certain class of NeWS software on a standalone Mac:
|that class of applications that runs in the NeWS server as its own
|lightweight PostScript process with any necessary scheduling handled
|by the NeWS server.  This is how NeWS "desk accessory" applications
|like calcul, puzzle, itemdemo, rotate, spirograph, world, and friends
|work.

How can you develop these applications? Do you have a lite-weight
editor that runs under NeWS? (Actually sounds like the great idea).


-- 
	Bruce G. Barnett 	<barnett@ge-crd.ARPA> <barnett@steinmetz.UUCP>
				uunet!steinmetz!barnett
Re: Well, I'm impressed.
#864
Author: Robert Claeson
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1988 22:37
6 lines
594 bytes
In article <7804@uunet.UU.NET> dsc@izimbra.CSS.GOV (manic pop thrill) writes:

> ...there have been ports of news to the
>macintosh running native mac os, the atari st as well as the amiga.

Great! Anyone for a PC port?
Re: Well, I'm impressed.
#868
Author: Charles L Ditzel
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1988 04:58
16 lines
954 bytes
In article <355@pvab.UUCP>, robert@pvab.UUCP (Robert Claeson) writes:
> In article <7804@uunet.UU.NET> dsc@izimbra.CSS.GOV (manic pop thrill) writes:
  
# # ...there have been ports of news to the
# # macintosh running native mac os, the atari st as well as the amiga.
  
# Great! Anyone for a PC port?

Santa Cruz Operations has made an agreement with Sun (according to
one the trade rags i read) to license their NeWS/X11 merge...i suspect
this is only for Xenix.

Anyone know of any ports to MS-DOS ?

-----------
My opionions are mine alone. 
Thread Navigation

This is a paginated view of messages in the thread with full content displayed inline.

Messages are displayed in chronological order, with the original post highlighted in green.

Use pagination controls to navigate through all messages in large threads.

Back to All Threads