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Honorable Paul David Fox
      wrote on 18 Mar (in article <332E593D.5864@lehman.com>):

=No - but you miss the point. I'm not saying MS-DOS and Windoze are
=good. They are total and utter crap closed systems. However, MS-Word,
=Excel, Lotus, Corel, etc, etc are truly good apps - they have a 
=desirable factor about them. I am proud to run MSVC and Word on
=my system.

The deeper one goes into this thread the more nonsence one reads!

MSVC!! Wow. Seldom have I seen a crapier environment. No wonder --
with the OS lacking the neccessary utilities they had to put
everything under one roof. And with user-base, which considers
``vi'' complicated, they made it for dummies... And it just does
not work in many cases.  Why do I need pdb, idb and ndb crap to
debug my program? Why does gdb survive perfectly without them,
shows me the stack and variables perfectly? What's wrong with tags
mechanism and what was the urge of creating the stupid browsing,
which keeps everything in binary format and, again does not work?

Why do I have to resolve all the symbols at compile time, even if
I create an so (that's dll for you)?

Word! Did you know, you can make image "italic"? :)

=I am ashamed to run CDE on my system and hear people trying to
=get to grips with Vi/Emacs/Textedit or whatever.

Good for you. CDE smells micey...

=If you want to create a brilliant looking app that people want to
=have on their system (e.g. netscape, Doom, etc) and you want to
=write it in Obj-C or Eiffel or whatever, then feel free. I will
=be glad for you.

People! What a measurement... People are stupid. Some of them are
so stupid, they prefer "brilliant looking app" to the one that is
"brilliant working"...

=But my point really is not to worry about the implementation -
=just get the product to market and make the world a happier
=place. I dont care if its written in <insert-fave-language-here>,
=just make Unix a survivable O/S in the year 20xx.

Despite your whining, Unix seems pretty much alive. I increased
the number of Unix machines around me from 1 to 7 in 2 years (at
home, at work, at friend's...).

	-mi
-- 
	"Windows for dummies"