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Adam Carheden wrote:

> I need some help identifying a network card.  Win98 detects it as a DEC
> 21040 compatable card.  There is definatly a Digital chip on it, and
> DC1012B appears to be the part number.  It's (C) 1995.  It's a PCI
> card.  most of the other chips are labeled Function with the funky littl
> logo that looks something like this:
>

This is just a guess, but I think it's a tulip.

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Adam Carheden wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I need some help identifying a network card.&nbsp;
Win98 detects it as a DEC
<br>21040 compatable card.&nbsp; There is definatly a Digital chip on it,
and
<br>DC1012B appears to be the part number.&nbsp; It's (C) 1995.&nbsp; It's
a PCI
<br>card.&nbsp; most of the other chips are labeled Function with the funky
littl
<br>logo that looks something like this:
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This is just a guess, but I think it's a tulip.
<pre>--&nbsp;
Jason L. Connor

&nbsp;- Systems Admninstrator
&nbsp;- Colorado State University&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; )))(
&nbsp;- Dept. of Atmospheric Science&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; O&nbsp; O
&nbsp;- Ft. Collins CO 80523-1371&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ------o000--()--000o---->
&nbsp;- (970) 491-8301
&nbsp;- jconnor@atmos.colostate.edu</pre>
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Adam Carheden <carheden@holly.colostate.edu> wrote:
: DEC appears to have become compaq and I can't find Function anywhere. 
: Anyone have any ideas?

DEC became Compaq, but DEC Semi became Intel.  The chips you are 
looking for now have Intel model numbers.  Or something.  
If it is detected as 21041, then it is likely a 10Mb Tulip-like
card. You can use either the tulip.c or the de4x5 driver.

This chip was used on the SMC EtherPower cards, and on the one
sitting in front of me: a Linksys EtherPCI card.

Note that you can always enter the FCC-ID into the FCC ID Search
form and find out the manufacturer:

www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid

A final note, the v0.89g tulip driver that comes with most linuces
does not work with the new 21143 chips.  Get the 0.91 drivers from
cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux first.

I'm very happy with the Tulip line of cards.  Good luck!

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To be perfectlly honest, it's going in an NT box, but people on
csu.unix.linux:

a) read the message
b) respond to the message
c) know the right answer

Sort of like csu.general is the nice catch all for csu, csu.unix.linux
is my catch all for computer related questions.  I wouldn't post a
directly NT questions here though. :)

Anyone know tulip's web site?

Michael Dwyer wrote:
> 
> Adam Carheden <carheden@holly.colostate.edu> wrote:
> : DEC appears to have become compaq and I can't find Function anywhere.
> : Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> DEC became Compaq, but DEC Semi became Intel.  The chips you are
> looking for now have Intel model numbers.  Or something.
> If it is detected as 21041, then it is likely a 10Mb Tulip-like
> card. You can use either the tulip.c or the de4x5 driver.
> 
> This chip was used on the SMC EtherPower cards, and on the one
> sitting in front of me: a Linksys EtherPCI card.
> 
> Note that you can always enter the FCC-ID into the FCC ID Search
> form and find out the manufacturer:
> 
> www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid
> 
> A final note, the v0.89g tulip driver that comes with most linuces
> does not work with the new 21143 chips.  Get the 0.91 drivers from
> cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux first.
> 
> I'm very happy with the Tulip line of cards.  Good luck!
> 
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> mdwyer@holly.ColoState.edu       http://WWW.CS.ColoState.EDU/~dwyer/
> Computer Science Major                      Amateur Radio Tech N0ZAP

Adam Carheden <carheden@holly.colostate.edu> wrote:
: Sort of like csu.general is the nice catch all for csu, csu.unix.linux
: is my catch all for computer related questions.  I wouldn't post a
: directly NT questions here though. :)

Get a real OS!!!  :)

: Anyone know tulip's web site?

I can find info on the 21143 at Intel, but I think they are trying to
pretend that the earler ones don't exist anymore.  If nothing else, you
can try the generic support for the chip.  In the NT list, there are
entries for "DEC PCI Ethernet DEC Chip 21xxx".  (NT4, SP5)  If you don't
find what you want there, you could probably use the Linksys EtherPCI
driver or the SMC one.

This site has a pretty-complete list of cards using the Tulip.  If
you can find which card is yours, by matching the controller and the
transceiver chip, you can probably use the matching driver.
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html

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Computer Science Major                      Amateur Radio Tech N0ZAP

Michael Dwyer wrote:
> Get a real OS!!!  :)

I can't, the office chose it!  They force me to work with this awful
thing... I think one day, just as we can now sue for a sexually charged
work environments and carpel-tunnel syndrome, we'll be able to sue for
undue stress from having to use inferior quality products.

I did make them run a 2nd file server with Linux/Samba though.

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Adam Carheden
carheden@holly.ColoState.EDU

Adam Carheden <carheden@holly.colostate.edu> wrote:
: Michael Dwyer wrote:
:> Get a real OS!!!  :)

: I can't, the office chose it!  They force me to work with this awful

Just as an aside, NT doesn't like 10/100 tulip cards for the first
couple of seconds after booting.  NT seems to think it can talk on
the network within seconds of turning on the card, and gets rather
petulant when it can't.  "Service Failed" and "Cannot find domain
admin thingy" are common.
Give the card a /few/ seconds -- you can hear the relay click on
to 100 mode -- and it all works fine.  A fix we discovered is to 
set them up on DHCP.  That kind of creates a nifty chicken/egg
problem that obviates this one.  They can't get an address to talk
on until the card has initialized.
But then I have seen a Large Company(tm) throw out a whole bunch
of these cards -- likely because of this behaviour.  Which is good
for the guy taking the trash out, I suppose, assuming he's got two
dozen servers and a 10/100 switch at home...  

But as Jack Handy says, when someone throws you out a plane, you might
as well go all floppy and stuff -- someone might catch you because
Hey!  Free dummy!

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Michael J. Dwyer                      I doubt, therefore I might be.
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Computer Science Major                      Amateur Radio Tech N0ZAP