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In article <DxrF9y.GwD.0.net@indra.com>, Gary Strand <gstrand@indra.com> wrote:
>gs> Or men can join the Campus Women's Organization?
>
>f > Absolutely.  Most definitely.
>
>  Any and all men, no discrimination of any kind? I really doubt that.

Men are welcome.  I supposed that only interested men join.  

> I wonder
>  if an absolute straight could join the CU LBG group? 

Of course they could.  At the company formerly known as AT&T
there are quiet a few straight and supportive folks in the
lesbigay group.

>
>gs> Men have been excluded from the Take Back the Night march (where's the out-
>    rage there?) and from International Women's Week fora on lesbian issues.

The last TBTN I went to in Chicago was organized by men, for their
neighbors and guests.  TBTN is grassroots, and meets the needs of 
the community.  At UM, the men of our community were supportive
with their Men Can Stop Rape campaign and were an important part of
the experience.   Strictly speaking "men have been excluded from the
TBTN **march**"--some events ask the men to let the women march alone 
while the men hold their own program.  Men are never prohibited from 
marching.  These events can be very small or quite large and require
parade permits and traffic police.  Depends on the sponsoring organizations.

>  "Accomodation" like "separate but equal"? That didn't fly then, what makes
>  it acceptable now?

No, not like "seperate but equal."  Like making the necessary changes
to accomodate people.  You know, common courtesy.  

>  Dworkin agitates for censorship; Canada takes her ideas to heart and censors
>  *her* "work". Just desserts, I say.

Which work?

Anyways, taking to heart in the words of Lewis Carroll, 
"never try to teach a pig to sing--it's frustrating
and annoys the pig", I will not participate in this
thread anymore.  You seem to be spouting things that
simply are not true out of ignorance.  It's not worth
my time to try to enlighten you.