🚀 go-pugleaf

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:28:17 -0400, Mr Ed <Ed@w3source.net> wrote:

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>Paul Morgan wrote:
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>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:11:23 -0400, "Jacko" <jacko@jacko.com> wrote:
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>> >Paul Morgan <here@home.net> wrote in message
>> >> I'm curious. By what means do you think we have the right to change
>> >> government?
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>> >its a fundamental stipulation of democracy that if the people are
>> >dissatisfied with the current government that they can expel it and impose a
>> >new type... remember, democracy's definition is government of the people by
>> >the people for the people. Just everyone isnt aware of this and well most
>> >people are scared to get off their butts and do anything about it. Remember,
>> >most nations were born of despotisms, then moved to feudalisms, to
>> >monarchys, to socialist states, some to dictatorships, with most all
>> >eventually ending up in a democracy. Governments have changed like this
>> >before, why do it have to stop evolving now?
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>> Good of you to jump in and answer for Ed.
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>It's an open thread, anyone is free to jump in and offer their opinion. That's
>what democracy is all about, isn't it Paul?
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Usual manners are that when a question is directed at an individual,
you wait for the reply.

>> Anyway Ed, by what means do you think we have the right to change
>> government? Do you propose violence or wait till next election?
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>I certainly do not advocate violence. I advocate peaceful and legal change when
>possible, and if that isn't practical, then I believe in the approach advocated
>by  Mahatma Gandhi, which includes civil disobedience. Gandhi said "Civil
>disobedience is the assertion of a right which law should give but which it
>denies...  Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as cooperation with
>good...  All through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have
>been tyrants. . . and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they
>always fall, always."
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>Of course *if* a government responds with violence towards it's citizens, the
>natural right of self-defence mandates that the citizens resist such violence by
>any means at their disposal, IMHO.
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>Does that answer your question Paul?


But the citizen must give violence first as the governments action is
a response.

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>Mr. Ed
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>"The FAMOUS Mr. Ed"