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danthman@umich.edu (Daniel I. Manes) wrote:

>No, the results are not the same.  You can either skid to a stop or roll
>to a stop.  If the wheels are rolling, they grip better.  Your figures
>can't possibly apply to both types of stopping without being inaccurate.

If the initial and ending speeds and the distance are identical the
deceleration factor will be the same.    

>Such as the coefficient of dynamic friction (skidding) rather than the
>coefficient of static friction (rolling).

I think we've gotten off the same wavelength somewhere.  They're
measured the same way and as pointed out above if the values are equal
the results will be the same.  If they aren't, they won't.

>My car's better-than-average braking distances are NOT an argument for
>getting out of a speeding ticket; they ARE an argument for explaining why
>my Interstate accident risk at 80 is similar to a large number of drivers
>at 70 (as far as braking distances are concerned).

My car's better than yours so I can speed and you can't.  Sounds
suspiciously like something I heard in a children's sandbox recently
only they were talking about their dads. :=]

>> One more excuse.   Perhaps you'd like to ask me how much I make from
>> writing speeding tickets? 

>Perhaps I'd like to ask how much this nation collects in speeding-ticket
>revenue per capita and what would happen if they no longer had this source
>of funds.

Since I don't speed it's not something I'm concerned with.
And I notice you didn't ask the question.  I guess you already knew
the answer. :=]

>Nevertheless, I never claimed every town was a Lindale, OH,
>or even most towns, but the fact that these towns exist at all proves that
>even police departments can be influenced by the power of money.

Not being familiar with Lindale I can't comment however being very
familiar with many other PD's and how they operate I can say this is
not a serious problem.  My own department relies heavily on sales tax
for revenue.  Ticket revenue doesn't even get returned to our budget.
It goes into the General Fund which is the same as a black hole.   

>Why?  Why is the American people's desire for mobility "bullshit?"

If you can go to the 7-Eleven without robbing it you can drive without
speeding.   

>Ahh, so you DO have a financial incentive to hold on to your beliefs about
>speeding. 

No.  I already have far more business than I can handle.  I'm much
more interested in getting from point A to point B without some idiot
blowing me off the road in the process.

>Now things are becoming very clear.  But in response to your
>statement, let's get clear what I'm arguing here.  I'm arguing that
>Interstate speed limits don't reflect the speeds we actually drive, and I
>think that should change.

That's funny.   When it was 55 mph this argument was used.  Now the
interstate limits here are 70 and 75 yet the argument still goes on.
It's bogus. Find a new one.

>Well, if it were just me, than the MAJORITY of Americans wouldn't break
>our Interstate speed laws every day, would they?

If the interstates were accident free you'd have a point.  They aren't
and you don't.

Have a nice week.


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